Can U Help Someone Who Doesn't Know How To Get Out Of The Organization?

by minimus 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I think the "coming out" tips for gays are really good. Just replace gay with "ex-jw" and all the advice fits.

    http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/ss/comingout_2.htm

    http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/ss/comingout_3.htm

    http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/ss/comingout_4.htm

    http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/ss/comingout_5.htm

    In general:

    • Know yourself. Spend some time in deep reflection, considering what is important to you.
    • Take breaks from the Watchtower routine, changing it up. Skip a book study or a service meeting or a Sunday service, but not all at once.
    • Broaden your social connections so that if the society breaks it off with you, you are not alone.
  • minimus
    minimus

    jgnat---I can see the similarities.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    For those that have realised the JWs are nothing but a manipulative and exploitative cultic organisation that was set up to serve the interests of its owners there is no easy way out if they have been there for long and have immediate family in. The cult instructed them to disown them as enemies of jehovah, his appointed FDS and all hi speople, a very colourful accusation.

    They can leave mentally and quietly fade away and contribute nothing to the org or get into the trouble of losing family and friends and restart. But some manage to persuade their spouse, the person that matters most, to leave with them.

  • Frank75
    Frank75

    How would YOU help someone to get out? Do you have any helpful suggestions???

    Help can be given in so many ways. This website and others like it such as H2O which helped me years ago, are immeasurable. Lurkers like NVR eventually come out of the shadows after mulling over the things they read.

    One on one help is necessary too. If you have found someone or they have found you, giving of your time to help them untangle the knots of 10, 20, 30 or more years of WT programming is the greatest gift of our time with what we know.

    Saying that, I wonder if it makes any sense trying to replace one needy clingy religious philosophy with another is of any benefit at all.

    I prefer to be a JW "who has seen the light" to other JW's, pointing out the errors of their belief in an attempt to unlock the persons mind and free will to decide things on their own.

    In other words, I become the Jew to the Jew or the Greek to the Greek. I do not try to make the person believe what I believe, even deflecting direct questions as unimportant. What is important is that it is their life and they need to figure out what is valuable to them. If they are going to be Christians or Buddhists, evolutionists, atheist, agnostic or whatever, they need to make that choice on their own.

    Help them to see that JW's have no monopoly on truth, in fact most of what they teach is twisted and easily overturned with reasoning from their own bible.

    Also, Dubs who start to question are like caged animals being introduced into the wild. I watched once as a big cat was being let back into the wild. He walked out of his cage, sniffed, looked around and then went back in.

    That illustrates the fear associated with the leaving the perceived security of a religion which is well illustrated by the cage. We all want freedom, but there is anxiety in making decisions shackled by mind control WT teachings.

    People need to be helped out of the thought processes enslaving them and this takes time, patience and, well, good old plain unconditional love!

    I wish more people would make a stand that can be a testimony to those in the JW who feel trapped as well.

    Those who sneak around and keep to themselves are sparing themselves some pain I agree, but not really helping themselves in the long run or others who are languishing apparently all alone.

    Frank75

  • moshe
    moshe

    Regrettably, their are many JW's who won't leave even if the WT building is on fire. It's not for me to judge a person's situation and decide that they are better off outside the Org. I am hoping that at some point very soon it won't matter , if a JW stays or leaves.

  • minimus
    minimus

    A few years back, I thought that many of the "Internet Apostates" were too venomous---a real turn-off to me! I prefer logic and understanding over bombastic name calling and insulting talk. You usually won't win a JW lurker like that.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Minimus, you (insert insult here) (insert insult here) (insert insult here) (insert insult here) ,

    If a person is too immobilized by fear, ignorance or sheer laziness to act in their own self interest, then a team of UADNA agents can be sent to kidnap them and fly them up to the UADNA orbiting space platform and world headquarters where they will be given ice cream and candy til they pop.

    Yeah, THAT'S the ticket!

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