Did you ever 'Turn Someone In' to the elders? Do you regret it now?

by AK - Jeff 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • troubled mind
    troubled mind

    Only one time and YES I regret it . When I was fifteen a worldly person turned me in for attending a birthday party and sleeping w/her boyfriend . The jealous girlfriend worked w/a witness and blabbed it all to her .so ..change of events happened . During my JC they knew my best friend had been with me at the party and she was a baptised witness (I was just a publisher ). They grilled me over and over on whether she was guilty of wrong doing also ....then they started with the guilt tactics that it was for her own good if I knew anything I should tell them....didn't I love her enough to want her to be cleared before Jehovah . So I caved and told them she also had a worldly boyfriend .......

    When her parents found out her mother called me and screamed at me that .."since you knew you were going down the drain you hd to drag my daughter down with you ,you liar your just like your good for nothing brothers ...they left the truth and so will you ."..........Can't you feel the LOVE......

    The truth was , I had been miss goody two shoes until I met their daughter . When I found out this baptised witness from a witness family was smoking , sneeking out, sleeping w/her worldly boyfriend , I figured heck why have I been so good for so long ? I wanted to fit in and cut loose too.

    Yet all along they thought I was the bad influence because my dad was an unbeliever ! She never admitted to the truth and told me she went to Jehovah only for her sins. Damn wish someone had told me you could do that before I spilled my guts to the horny group of elders I confessed to .

  • Descender
    Descender

    I didn't ever tell on anyone myself. But my good ex-JW friend, Robert, that I grew up with was telling me a story the other day that I thought was kind of funny though.

    He and a crew helped remodel the inside of a local strip club a few months back and he'd gone back in to meet with the owner to drop off his invoice around lunch time and noticed a ministerial servant that he used to know from a local congregation sitting by himself at a table in the back. Anyway, Rob went over to his table and said, you're so and so. He said the guy got a little bit red and said that he'd heard that he looks like this other person, but it wasn't him. So Rob sat down and engaged him in conversation, and caught him saying something only a JW would say. And Robert said, "hahah, I caught you, you are that guy." I guess when Rob said that, the JW got really nervous, said he had to go and basically ran for the door. Always fun catching someone self righteous doing something hypocritical.

    Of course, Rob won't say anything about it. He's been out for 11 years.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    I did.

    A husband and wife who were both once active JWs. I was conducting a "bible study" with their kids. I was a 20 year-old pioneer on his way up in the org... I thought I had an idea of what devotion to "truth" and "righteousness" was about.

    They told me that they had been before a JC at one time in the past because they had aborted an unwanted pregnancy, and then they told me that they had done this again AFTER their "repentance." They asked me to keep their secret.

    At the time I felt that I wished they hadn't told me, but that in telling me they obligated me to report to the elders what I now knew. I reported them. The elder I spoke to was rather cold, uncaring and matter-of-fact about how this would turn out for the couple. It was yet another crack in the egg for me.

    I ended my 'studies' with the kids, and I don't know what became of them or their parents. To this day I wonder about them and I wish they had not confided in me.

    Today, having rejected the authority of the WTB&TS, I would not "report" them to anyone. I would express my condolences for the regret and guilt they felt.

    I am not a cop, and I am not a judge.

  • misanthropic
    misanthropic

    I never turned anyone in.
    But my dad turned me in a couple of times when I was about 15 for smoking and stuff like that- he kept a file on me in his file cabnet and any time I did anything he wrote notes down & everything it was weird. Even my mom was disturbed by that one, it was strange.

  • RichieRich
    RichieRich

    There was a girl who was the daughter of the cong. secretary and a regular pioneer.

    Both of her sisters were regular pioneers too, one was married to a former bethelite.

    Well, this girl was dating a football player at school, and they were involved. Rumor had it they were "caught" by his mother once.

    Well, despite this illicit activity, this young girl still acted like she was better than everyone, as did the rest of her family. They were known for being snobbish and only liked by people inside their clique. (this general attitude in ANYONE bugs the hell out of me)

    One sunday, guess who shows up at our meeting- the football player. An elder walks over to greet him and the football player boyfriend says he knows me from school.

    Well, I avoid the boyfriend, but the elder finds me. The elder asks me why I'm not talking to the person I brought to the hall. I tell the elder that I'm not the reason he's here.

    The elder says, oh well, why don't you offer him a study then.

    So I tell the elder I believe he knows everything he needs to know about this organization, and he spends a lot of time with his witness girlfriend, so she'd prob. be better to study with him since they are always together anyhow.

    She was publicly reproved a week later.

    I never felt bad. She got humbled, who cares.

    On top of that, the sister that was married to the former bethelite ran off on him and she got DFed a few months later.

    I'm a vengeful person, so I never had any second thoughts about damaging other people's standing in the congregation.

  • undercover
    undercover

    I knew plenty of people who did plenty of things that could've got them in trouble. But I never turned anyone in.

    Not that I was trying to be non-judgemental. I resented some people who seemed to always get away with shit that I wouldn't dare even try to do. I always hoped they would get caught and those that did, I reveled in their misery. Looking back on it, I'm glad that I never ratted anyone out, but I definitely needed to get a life and not worry about what everyone else was doing.

    I was called as a witness a few times in JC meetings. Usually I wasn't much help to either the prosecution or the defense. Nor did I really try to be. I usually wanted to not be involved, even if I resented the accused troublemaker. But one time, I was a key witness against a lying, cheating, stealing girl who had the audacity to call herself a Christian. I didn't like her one bit and she knew it. She caused some major problems to me and my friends with her lying and cheating. She knew I was on to her antics. She got caught and turned in by someone else, but I had a lot of dirt on her and when I got called in to testify, so to speak, I laid it on but good. In that one situation I do not regret having had a hand in her getting her just desserts.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Re: Did you ever 'Turn Someone In' to the elders? Do you regret it now? Yes and Yes

  • The wanderer
    The wanderer

    Dear Jeff:

    I have MAJOR regrets in that department as well. During
    my days of being the "Goose Stepping Gestapo Witness."
    I turned in a very nice Polish sister for "crimes
    against the faith."

    She was my friend and I have lived to
    regret this action until this day.

    Respectfully,

    Richard

    (The Wanderer)

  • bluesbreaker59
    bluesbreaker59

    I did only once, because I was going to go down, because one of my friends stabbed me in the back, and blackmailed me into stabbing two others, so I did. It humbled that kid, and I never admitted to sleeping with my girlfriend to anyone, though her parents and mine both knew, which is why we were forced into a marriage. Now 7 years and one shitty marriage and a divorce later, I have no regrets. All the friends in this story are still good friends of mine, and we are all out of the borg.

    I tried like hell to get my ex DF'd for cheating on me, but she lied her way out of that.

  • Bonnie_Clyde
    Bonnie_Clyde

    I did it twice. The first time I had no idea that there would be repercussions. I simply told the elders that a sister I visited in an assisted living facility expressed her desire to go to heaven. A few weeks later they read that she was disfellowshipped. A few years later I asked my father (an elder) why she was disfellowshipped. He said it was because the preferred the King James Bible over the New World Translation. He wasn't an elder at the time but knew about it. Apparently her preference for the King James came out during their investigation. I am totally disgusted. She was in her 80's, had been baptized only a couple of years, and was the sweetest person you could have ever met. Still--I stayed loyal to the big O.

    The second time was for smoking. Again the person was disfellowshipped, and he was soon divorced.

    Scary, isn't it?

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