Two Questions...

by AlphaOmega 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  OnTheWayOut

  1. If Satan is supposed to be the ruler of this world AND Jesus' arrived invisibly in 1914 to rule the world, surely only one is true.

  Here's the correct answer from Eclipse:

  1914 was the year Jesus was enthroned, and Jesus first act as King was to hurl the demons and Satanto earth. now Satan is ruler of the earth, and Jesus is king in heaven..

  When we analyze doctrine, Jesus was enthroned in Heaven, and only had his 'presence' on Earth in the sense of
  judging the sheep and the goats, but now that's cancelled, so his presence was to establish who his faithful and
  discreet slave was. He determined that the group that thought he arrived in the 19th century, and who celebrated
  Christmas, and used Pyramidology to arrive at 1914 as the end of the world- these folks were closest to doing his
  will because they sold literature about God's Kingdom. Today, we know they were wrong about all those points, but
  they were still chosen because they sold literature about God's Kingdom.

  2. The "Knocking" documentary put the dubs on television, does that make them "TeleDubbies" ?

  YES.
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  AlphaOmega

  1. If Satan is supposed to be the ruler of this world AND Jesus' arrived invisibly in 1914 to rule the world, surely only one is true.

  Here's the correct answer from Eclipse:

  1914 was the year Jesus was enthroned, and Jesus first act as King was to hurl the demons and Satanto earth. now Satan is ruler of the earth, and Jesus is king in heaven..

  When we analyze doctrine, Jesus was enthroned in Heaven, and only had his 'presence' on Earth in the sense of
  judging the sheep and the goats, but now that's cancelled, so his presence was to establish who his faithful and
  discreet slave was. He determined that the group that thought he arrived in the 19th century, and who celebrated
  Christmas, and used Pyramidology to arrive at 1914 as the end of the world- these folks were closest to doing his
  will because they sold literature about God's Kingdom. Today, we know they were wrong about all those points, but
  they were still chosen because they sold literature about God's Kingdom.

  2. The "Knocking" documentary put the dubs on television, does that make them "TeleDubbies" ?

  YES.

  Thank you for your answers. Does anyone have any WT references that say that Jesus inspected them in 1919 and gave them his seal of approval ? Have they really dumped that doctrine - or do they cling onto it based on the "selling of literature"?
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  bigdreaux

  awesome point doug, mind if i use that one?
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  OnTheWayOut

  Have they really dumped that doctrine - or do they cling onto it based on the "selling of literature"?

  They cling to Jesus' inspection of 1919 and his approval of the Watch Tower Organization.

  The "selling of literature" is from me, kind of tongue-in-cheek. In reality, they were approved
  because they were feeding spiritual truth to the domestics at the right time. Regardless of
  the errors, they still say "spiritual truths" based on what they said was right, and what they
  spin as right out of their errors. They said the 1914 stuff (totally different from the message
  today) and they said the end was near. They also said the churches were under Satan and
  were spiritually dead. They cling to those and other things as proof.

  I am not able to look up the references, but they are easy to find.
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  eclipse

  http://www.carm.org/jw/docs/1000years_p346.htm

  Here you go, watchtower references about 1919.
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  nvrgnbk

  Yes. You had it right the first time.

  Satan rules.
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  eclipse

  lol, just kidding bro!
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  nvrgnbk

  lol, just kidding bro!

  Are you? Am I?

  All good questions.
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  eclipse

  Am I Satan, or Am I kidding? which question are you refering to??

  To answer: No, I am not satan, and I dont think you are either..

  and yes, I was kidding

  nvrgnbk, does=?????
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  Terry

  Here is a more compelling question for you.

  JW's kick out naysayers (apostates) as fast as possible, but, Jehovah allowed Satan the run of heaven for millennia: what gives with the double standard???

  Who is worse: a troubled publisher wanting clarification on flip-flop issues or a demon trying to tear angels away from God's throne?