Did You Know or Know Of "Gay" or Bisexual JWs??? (page 4)

I've read through this thread and have found myself really disappointed with it and the posters to it. You do yourselves no credit at all. You sound like a bunch of gossipy old women (no offense to old women) The premise of the thread "Did You Know or Know Of "Gay" or Bisexual JWs???" is just ridiculous not to say juvenile. Grow up ! You live in the real world now, it doesn't matter if someone’s gay or bisexual, well it shouldn't not unless you're a small minded bigot that loves to talk about people.

For the record, I'm gay. I'm not in the least bit effeminate and neither are any of my gay mates. The idea that because someone is effeminate it means they are gay is about as outdated and as offensive as the ridiculous view that all black men are muggers.

It would appear that some of you are still stuck with your watchtower mentalities which is a shame because people like me had to leave family and friends behind to escape from such a thing and yet here I find it alive and kicking.

Get over yourselves and grow up.

Junction-Guy

Jeez ligthen up, your being too sensitive. Minimus just likes to start interesting topics, he meant nothing by it.

gymbob

Ragnarokkr~

Did anyone say there was something wrong with being gay, or acting fem, like, uh, comparing it to saying all black men are "muggers"? Lighten up....

Ragnarökkr

But whats the point? whats the point of this thread other than to gossip about "gays?" Minimus has ben quite outspoken on his views of gays in the past, this thread just comes across as yet more homophobic bull.

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much. Come 'ere minimus givus a kiss !

neverendingjourney

I don't think the topic is inherently ridiculous. They way homosexuality is dealt with in the religion is an extremely important issue. It's a travesty how gay people are treated. They're made to feel as if they're inherently evil people because of the feelings they carry within them. I feel extremely bad for the elder that I talked about in my earlier post. He is/was an upright, decent person who happened to be gay. He was publicly embarrassed and made to feel ashamed for acting on his natural sexual preference. That type of thing needs to be addressed. Acknowledging that there were/are active homosexuals in the JW ranks also goes to show that their belief that gays can change with the power of the Bible and prayer is utterly ridiculous.

saywhat29

*fingersnaps* Work it Ragna! Also, the comments about "turning" gay and lifestyle, WTH? Like there is exactly one gay lifestyle...

Effemenancy and being gay aren't linked... but lets not leave our effeminate brothers... and "sisters" for that matter out of it as there's nothing wrong with being swishy. Like all mannerisms, masculine, feminine, and effeminate- it is all a matter of how one relates to their environment, deal with stress, and wields their energy. And there's power in that that most people, straight or gay, cannot understand.

But yes I know of some effeminate brothers too- one who had a very effeminate voice and whenever he gave talks, I don't care how liberal or progressive or fairminded you were or how much you liked or loved the guy, you couldn't help but wonder if he was gay. It couldn't have crossed your mind- unless you were his mother and you were just blind to it or something. Has a wife with some kids as well, thougt that doesn't mean he's straight but his voice doesn't mean he's gay either.

And I know of a particular brother at my hall that is very effeminate and people just tend to ignore it, however, I, even my gay ass was enoying looking at some girls in passing one day who were hella hot and he just couldn't catch on... and it made him very unomfortable, sometimes like I am if I'm not attracted to a girl yet everybody around me is. Like I'm missing it- and I wasn't even "testing" the guy, he just couldn't catch on.

Hmm, I should cause a HOT GAY JW SCANDAL with him now that i think about it... behind the damn book counter and ontop of the latest Awake magazines. Yep. I should.

Ragnarökkr

Ok now we're addressing issues rather than just gossipping and coming out with stuff like "welll i knew a brother who was very effeminate, he wasn't married and he loved musicals so he must have been a gay"

Growing up gay in the truth is hell, you are made to feel like some sort of perverted freak, you're constantly threatened with death and ultimatly you know its going to cost you your family and all the friends you grew up with. Been there seen that, got the scars on my heart to prove it.

neverendingjourney

Growing up gay in the truth is hell, you are made to feel like some sort of perverted freak, you're constantly threatened with death and ultimatly you know its going to cost you your family and all the friends you grew up with.

That's my point exactly. The JW obsession with homosexuality even extends to those of us that aren't gay. If you're seen to be just a little bit off, you can easily be accused of being gay. I had several girlfriends growing up, but I never got married. I realized that this wasn't the truth in my early 20s, so I didn't want to have any more relationships with JWs because of it. Since the years passed and I didn't get married or find a new girlfriend, gossipy sisters began to wonder whether I might be gay. There is nothing about me that would even suggest that I could possibly be gay, but the mere fact that I wasn't conforming in every respect led to that kind of speculation.

There was a young JW that I knew who was never really accepted. He seemed to be a little too "worldly" for the friends' taste. Ironically, he got baptized because he wanted to marry a young sister, but the relationship ended up falling through. A gay rumor started up about him and he was never able to live it down. There was absolutely no evidence that he was gay. Someone said they say him with another guy and that was enough. He eventually had to move away to escape the rumor. It's a travesty the way gay issues are dealt with in the JW world.

Junction-Guy

Minimus, yeah it was a gay law enforcement gathering. They were mostly city cops, a couple of firemen, one probation officer, one paramedic, and me. I didnt really enjoy it at all, they were the least sociable bunch I have probably ever been with, and they too were very gossipy.

I guess going to the Apostafests really spoiled me, because at least there the people were friendly and talked with me, not so in Florida.

Did You Know or Know Of "Gay" or Bisexual JWs???

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