by minimus 41 Replies latest jw friends
Only fellow elders or higherups can "discipline" an elder.
That never stopped me. I didn't view anyone as "higher up". They are mere men who shit the same way I do, and I had no problem telling them that. They didn't have my respect because they didn't earn it. W
Yeah.....but you still didn't discipline and put judicial restrictions on them.
I was removed from being an MS for following the society's guidlines, instead of the elders.
However, I stayed a pioneer. Which confused a lot of people.
I would get asked "How do you loose one without loosing the other?"
Since the elders forbade me to tell anyone the circumstances (for fear of being DF'd for slander), I would just say "I'd rather not say".
It was announced that I was bad association for the youth in the hall, I was 14 at the time, and boy I had a bad rep already but everyone avoided me like if I had 666 on my forehead, it didn't bother me I hated all the Dub youth and never really talked to anyone anyway! but my dad beat the shit out of me for it.
Yeah.....but you still didn't discipline and put judicial restrictions on them.
I disciplined them and put my restrictions on them. I threw them and their book study out of my home. I dumped the BS chairs on the conductors porch, blocking entry to his house. I wasn't raised as a JW, so I never bought into their delusion of authority. They only have what you give them. I had no problem telling them to screw off whenever they tried to counsel me if the counsel wasn't from the bible. That's probably why they never made me a MS flunkie. There's no denying they hated my guts, but there was little they could do. They kicked me off the school, sound, accounts, and just about everything else. I was excluded from all social functions. These things were good. The more they excluded me, the more my quality of life increased. Being excluded from social functions saved me from having to pretend I like them as well as incredible boredom. So these "restrictions" were not restrictions at all. I never understood the JW mindset that kissing asses in order to have the privilege of working for free was a good thing. I was willing to help in the hall, but I never lost sight of the fact that I was doing them a favour, not the other way around. W
FF, I LOVE your frankness!
What I find amazing about this thread is that it shows that each cong. and body of elders deals with things differently, even going against the Society's policies ( ex. the unbaptized pub who has privately reprooved). They claim to be united and uniform but thay are nothing of the sort.
not me, i was a good little j.w., well, there was that time i was busted for stealing cars and running a chop shop, then, the time i tried to summon deamons to my elementary school, then the time my mom found my stash of porn, cigaretts, and weed, then the time i got a bunch of people to go to a mardi gras parade, but, other than that, no.
I used to get "counseled" pretty frequently, like when I ran away from home to escape a child molester the elders refused to do anything about. I got in trouble for being rebellious, and for using foul language (the day my stepfather tried to rape me, while trying to fight him off, I called him a bastard. Very un-Christian of me, I know.) The only time I got reproof and lost my privileges, though, was for the horrible crime of peircing my nose. The cool thing was, after a month or two of not doing talks in the ministry school, I realized how much I hated the school; when my reproof was over, I declined to participate in the school anymore. It was nice to cross that one off my list.
does this count?
I have been counseled because I held my wife's hand (we were only dating then). According to the elders only engaged ones can do this
