More FEARmongering.....

by R.F. 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • R.F.
    R.F.

    I've missed meetings consistently for about 2 months now. My ex-fiancee just left a energy-filled voicemail. She said..........

    "Please come back to the meetings! The friends and I miss you! Just imagine how we would feel if we were at the meeting and the brothers announced to us to not go back to our homes and that the Great Tribulation has begun?! That would really hurt me knowing the state your in if it was to happen now. So please, please, PLEASE think about what i've just said!"

    Why not ask me to come back because of love for God? A few others in the congo have expressed their "concern" and used this concept on me. It's all about fear. So it's becoming more and more clearer to me lately that to JWs, excellent meeting attendance will result in salvation. I don't hear Jesus being mentioned anywhere. I know JWs are very sincere about what they believe and they think they know what's best for me, but all of this is only confirming to me the fact that I no longer belong in this organization and their beliefs.

    It also confirms to me the fact that is was best for me to end the engagement. Not that doctrinal issues were the only issue with our relationship but I know now that If I would've married her, I would have been miserable. The fact that she's such a company woman is evident of that. When we were together I even used to have to beg her to read the Bible more. She spent almost all of her study sessions just reading the publications from the org. It should've been a no-brainer to me at the time that she'd react negatively about my true expressed feelings to her about the org. As soon as I talked to her about these issues that she viewed me as this spiritually sick person that has been "overreached by Satan" and had "lost Jehovah's spirit". I'm just glad all that happended before it was too late. Things just seemed to fall perfectly in place.

    R.F.

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    It always makes me wonder-if you have lost Jehovah's spirit and have been overreached by Satan-why would Jehovah WANT you at the KH when the great trib started? Just one more piece of carrion to clear out of the KH! I don't think insincerity would impress God, do you? Do they? Oy!

  • Arthur
    Arthur
    So it's becoming more and more clearer to me lately that to JWs, excellent meeting attendance will result in salvation. I don't hear Jesus being mentioned anywhere.

    For all intents and purposes, the Watchtower organization has become a modern day golden calf to many of it's followers. They have been so effectively indoctrinated with the idea that an organization will provide salvation despite the fact that such a concept is completely absent in the Scriptures. I too, feel your frustration. I am under intense pressure to return to the organization, and have heard similar comments. There simply is no reasoning with most Witnesses. They are so emotionally invested in the ideology of the organization with it's saving powers that no amount of reasoning will ever make any difference.

  • Gopher
    Gopher
    The friends and I miss you! Just imagine how we would feel ....

    This guilt trip has been brought to you by the Jehovah club. We specialize in lame attempts to make you feel sorry for us.

  • R.F.
    R.F.

    Arthur that point is right on the money. At first I was quite disappointed at the fact that my ex thought that way of me simply because of my doubts. At first she said I was smart to really research what we were told by the Society to make sure it's true, but then the Watchtower mind control clicked on and she said I scared her. This was a couple of days later. So as you said, no matter how much I tried to reason with the Bible alone with her, she refuted with WT theology. A few times...just a few....she admitted that there were some points I brought out that she should really check on. But then once more, the mind control clicked on again to..."well we just need to wait on Jehovah for our answers."

    It truly can be a frustrating and difficult experience.

  • reneeisorym
    reneeisorym

    "Why not ask me to come back because of love for God? A few others in the congo have expressed their "concern" and used this concept on me. It's all about fear. So it's becoming more and more clearer to me lately that to JWs, excellent meeting attendance will result in salvation. I don't hear Jesus being mentioned anywhere. I know JWs are very sincere about what they believe and they think they know what's best for me, but all of this is only confirming to me the fact that I no longer belong in this organization and their beliefs." I had those same feelings. God's working on ya R.F.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I can play this card in reverse. What the Craptower calls "salvation" is actually stagnation. Those left in when the tribulation starts face living forever in a state where someone tells them everything they can and cannot do. They have to always do exactly what they are told, and nothing more. They live where the Tower tells them to. They do the work that the Tower wants them to (and I read where someone at Beth Hell was stuck in the cheese factory for 30 years, despite that this person hated this assignment more than anything else, right in a yearbook). You live with whoever the Tower tells you to. You get up, work, and sleep when the Tower tells you to.

    Even in the world, it is a fact that 99.9% of all people are mismatched with their jobs (if you don't believe me, if you are matched properly, you wouldn't be dreading that Monday morning. You would be looking forward to it.) But at least you have the opportunity to mold your work so it becomes a bit more enjoyable, perhaps by wearing a headphones while working or some other concessions. At Beth Hell, there is no concession. They are not allowed radios, headphones, joking, or anything else that might lighten the work a bit. Imagine having to do this, forever. That is what the new order is going to be like.

    And don't think you are going to be one of those 0.1% of those who can't wait to start working and for who the end of your work shift comes too quickly. If that happens, you would be surprised how quickly the leaders are going to dial 911 and get you out of there. After all, you are not supposed to enjoy your work. Instead, you are supposed to do it for the "love" of God only and not for personal satisfaction. That is going to carry on into the new order, making you stagnant and miserable all the time. Is this the kind of world you want to live forever in? Well, if you improve your meeting attendance, start going out in service all the time and stop dawdling out there, get rid of all your music and videos except the Craptower publications, get rid of all non-Craptower Society books and magazines, unplug your computer and Game Boy/Xbox, and follow all the petty rules that they come up with, you will be living this kind of miserable existence forever. And trust me, it is worse than getting destroyed. At least, you can only be everlastingly destroyed once, after which there isn't a $%^$ing thing Jehovah can do about it.

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    Right on R.F., right on.

    You are so lucky that you didn't marry her. It couldn't have been easy to let her go, but it was best for both of you.

    Perhaps she will think about some of the things you said and eventually she'll leave herself. Then she can visit you and your wife and kids and see what she missed out on. whooooo-aaaaaah

    OK maybe that's just silly.

  • icyestrm
    icyestrm

    The elders could have used your ex to play with your emotions and to reconsider your fade. Anything is possible with elders. Its good that you broke all ties to her, just move on and find a girl in outside of the organization.

  • R.F.
    R.F.
    The elders could have used your ex to play with your emotions and to reconsider your fade. Anything is possible with elders. Its good that you broke all ties to her, just move on and find a girl in outside of the organization.

    This thought did swim around in my mind for a bit. They did meet with her a couple of times after we broke up...........

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