RF,
From your description of your congregation, your area would be a great place for a fader to move to. They are so enmeshed with internal problems that they wouldn't even bother with dealing with another potential problem dub.
JK
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RF,
From your description of your congregation, your area would be a great place for a fader to move to. They are so enmeshed with internal problems that they wouldn't even bother with dealing with another potential problem dub.
JK
JK666 how very right you are!
Purps has seemed to fade pretty well and i'm in the process of doing so. Over half the congo being inactive is a big indicator of that. I didn't even know just how many pubs there actually were until SOME of them happened to show up at the Memorial.
R.F.
R.F./Purps - why not post the KH Address and every fader in the world can ask for their record cards to be sent there if they are moving away from their local area :-)
just a thought....
The Watchtower is not crumbling ... it's rebuilding, redefining, reinventing itself! Even if the Society does fall ... there will always be Jehova's Witnesses, someone will rise up and lead them, as a whole who as a faction.
RR
I like D'fings as long as they don't happen to me
RF: sounds like it's time to make your move into freedom...
Arthur, the illegal immingrant issue has always disturbed me.They use the example of the slave Philemon to justify their position. I don't think they would ever have come up with this one had they not realized they need immigrants to floushish and survive. It's just another example of their philosophy of "the end justifies the means". That they would use the scriptures to make their justification is disgusting.
changeling
I doubt it. What you're experiencing in your area is not happening everywhere. Success seems very localized. Where I live, the congregations are expanding by leaps and bounds. One hall has at least 150 people there every Sunday.
The heyday of the Watchtower Society in westernized countries is past. In the 1960s and early to mid-70s, the number of outsiders converting to the organization was phenomenal. Locally, we covered the territory in weeks. Nowadays, I'd be "lucky" to see JWs out at all. Occasionally, I see them shuffling slowly down the street, but no where near the numbers there used to be. The age of the door- knockers is also revealing: Lots of older women, a few younger women with their kids and virtually no teenagers/adolescents among them. Also: Where are the JW men???
It's probably too simplistic to say the Watchtower is crumbling. As one poster said earlier, the Watchtower will adapt to these new "challenges". But I doubt that it will ever again be the religious "force" it once was: In the 60's and 70's it was often described by the local media as the fastest growing religion in the country. No more.
In the early 90's , before I stopped attending, already they were adapting field service to the modern world. This world is one where most women work, and people work in shifts. Filed service has adapted too. They were encouraging us to "think outside the box' and do telephone, writing, street corner again, mall witnessing, hospital witnessing, any and all places we could do informal witnessing. This seems to be the way it is now, as I can't recall a door knocker, jw or any other religion. some day door knocking may be recalled as we do the phonograph days. and yes RR is right, the org. is just reinventing herself. They will get rid of the ones that have caused them bad publicity and move one. they will cost cost to bare bones, D/c any and all things that re too costly and move on. They did this in the 80's with the less educated jws. they dumped them and started setting their sights for the college educated class..
cultswatter,
you wrote: I like D'fings as long as they don't happen to me
I am here to tell you, I liked it better when it happened to me!!!
They can have the UN, but they aint gonna have me, again, ever.
Brant