Pointers please in writing my letter of Disassociation!

by tremoka 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • journey-on
    journey-on
    Any time I acted on emotion I was sorry. It's been true in purchases and it's been true in personal relationships. I have a wait three days rule for myself. I also have a talk to a sage rule. Before I do anything big, I want to measure the consequences, calculate the cost (both short term and long term), and identify my assumptions and give them weight and value as numbers.

    These are wise words indeed, Garybuss! (I have a 3-day rule, too and everytime I've ever gone against it, I've paid in one way or another.)

  • misanthropic
    misanthropic
    This argument has been rolled over many times on this board. DA or don't DA? Is DAing "playing their game" or is it our way of disfellowshipping the WT from us?


    exactly... The reason I chose to DA myself was because I felt it was 'me letting them know I was choosing NOT to be a part of them in any way anymore'.
    I didn't want any confusion as to what my stand was in the matter, I've heard of elders coming after people who've been out for 10+ years. I didn't want it to be left up in the air, it was the best choice for me personally.

  • sf
    sf

    Don't get all dramatic.

    Two words:

    Good bye.

    Good riddance.

    So long.

    Save paper and keep it simple!

    sKally

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I'll tell you a little bit more about my story. I quit the borg in 83. My wife stopped going in 93. Neither of us dissassociated ourselves, no letters, no announcements. My wife comes from a large Italian family. With 4 witnoid elder brother in laws. My wife celebrates all the hollidays, for exmass she has santa on a sled on the roof and the witnoids know about it. They come selling magazine every month down her in Florida. When one of her family has an anniversarry, the only Jw. sanctioned celebration, her elder brother -in laws invite us and have us sit next to them at the table of honor among all the witnoids like we were all at the Sunday talk together. And they dont try to save us. They dont talk about religion to us.

    On the other hand my wife has several family members that are disfellowshiped and dissassociated. They avoid them like the plague and will not invite them to the same festivities that they invite us to. They will not even talk to them.

    If you want to have people in your life who will not talk to you, who will not be in the same room youre in. If you are into high blood pressure and confrontations.

    Write on.

    You cant cross burnt bridges.

    I see the pain and suffering, disfellowshiping and dissasociating causes. I have a 55 year perspective. I've seen people hold their pride right to the grave.

    The easiest solution, no rocket science here, move out of the territory, and dont answer the phone or door to witnoids. In a year or two you will have a new lease on life with no burnt bridges.

    I think the rocket science for some pople is how not to answer the phone or the door. I cant help you there. But like Nike says just do it.

    There is a scripture in the bible for those who like to thump, it says only a fool tells all he knows.

  • NotaNess
    NotaNess

    Where and the heck did your husband read the books!!!???? Under the covers in bed with a flashlight at midnight?

    Glad you and the hub are on your way. Good luck with it.

  • Little Drummer Boy
    Little Drummer Boy

    Would like to thow in here that one of the reasons that exwitless and I took so long to DA (as she mentioned) was because I had a cleaning business (surprise, surprise) which provided about half our income and all of my work came from just one elder. I didn't want to build the business - I wanted out of it almost as much as I wanted out of the borg. So I wasn't interested in getting other cleaning accounts. It was sheer torture wanting to leave the borg but having to play nice so that I could have the income. I know first hand and can completely relate to anyone who feels they aren't being true to themselves, etc.

    Unlike the experience of many on this discussion board who don't like it when people DA and think we all should just not answer the door, our situation was...our situation. THEY WOULD NOT LEAVE US ALONE! At least once a week they would come around. Almost every weekend there for awhile, plus mid-week when we weren't home (leaving literature) and I could not, under any circumstance, raise suspicions. It was HELL always having to plaster on the fake smile. There was no way to hide from them, nor did we want to live that way in our own home. When I was finally able to quite the cleaning, we DA'd fast because we didn't have anything to lose.

    But, that was us. We have no family in the borg. We wanted a clean break. We wanted to burn bridges because we didn't ever want to see 99.5% of the JWs we knew ever again. The dubs in our area are enomously persitant. For us, just seeing a damn witness minivan in the driveway is like picking a scab over and over again. We wanted them gone forever. Guess what...DA'ing does just that.

    Gary is very wise though. I had to disentangle myself financially before it was safe to DA. It took a long, long time and careful planning. It is a very liberating and freeing thing to DA. However, consider very carefully the ramifications of doing so. The "your playing their game" line is not a valid reason to not DA. That is just complete bs. There is no "game" unless you want to think that they actually give a rats ass about your spirituality. But they don't. We are all just numbers to them, and they will just as happily cross you off their list of people they need to deal with if you DA as have you back in the fold if you don't. The reason to not DA is if it will make your life more miserable in the long run if you do it.

    If you DA, I would just keep in mind that although it might be healing for you in some way to write a long, drawn out letter detailing all the wrongs of the borg....they will never read it. It they do, the reasoning won't matter. All you need to do to DA is just say that you officially no longer want to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses and that you want to Disassociate yourself from your congregation. Sign and date it and mail it to the Secretary. Badda Bing, done.

    You might also choose to right a brief letter to any dub you actually care about. Again, if you want them to actually read it, don't bash the borg. Tell them you love them, blah, blah, whatever.

    One final point and then I'll stop.

    If you don't mind my advice on this...and it is only advice...the borg tells dubs what to do, how to think, what to wear...you get the idea. If you want to be free, do what is right for you. Be suspicious of motivations of people who are still trying to tell you what to think, how to feel, what to do even though they have left the borg. That means the borg mentallity is still with them in some way. It is not wrong to fade. It is also not wrong to DA. There are perfectly good reasons to do either. In the end, do what feels best to you because we aren't you and can't know your situation.

  • exwitless
    exwitless

    Very well said, Little Drummer Boy.

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis

    Wow thanks Chelbie

    Uhm, I would say this:

    There are so many ways to do this. I think what's important is to focus on the things that bother you the most and really know what you are talking about. I think ultimately my da letter took quite a few days, weeks maybe.

    Try to stay calm and focused. (I tend to ramble.....)

    If you don't want to get in depth for whatever reason, keep it short. I no longer wish to be considered one of Jehovah's Witnesses...or something like that.

    My letter had started as a response to queries from family wanting to know "where I stood." And well, it sort of took on a life of it's own....

    Good luck!!!!!!!!!

  • Madame Quixote
    Madame Quixote

    "Dear Former Friends And Tenants:

    F[xxx] You. More engaging friends and richer tenants are on the way.

    Sincerely Yours,

    Happy People On The Way Out"

  • tremoka
    tremoka

    I'm shocked over the difference in opinion on this one!

    One question for those who don't think DAing is a good idea. I live in a town of 5000 people. Sow let's say xmas decor is up, won't this give my Mother in law who lives here a hearattack if she had no idea where I stand? I like to be clear on my standing with people. No confusion. No games. Everyone knows everything you do when you live in a small community. We CAN NOT move.

    Please could you give me some alternatives in handling this situation that does not involve a formal disassociation?

    This is something I've stewed over for a couple years and something I've discussed with my husband for a year.

    My mother in law freely associates with her df'd relatives. Her brother was a charged sex offender and she still supports him! It's only her and my sister in law I fear hurting. Everyone else can get over it!

    THanks Again EVERYONE!!!! I love seeing the different opinions!

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