Is it true that the WT uses hypnosis covertly during KH meetings?

by seatrout 38 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  journey-on

  I don't know about them using hypnosis in the conventional sense, but I did experience something last year when I went to a couple of meetings after having been out of it and "deprogrammed" for many years. I kid you not! Everybody in the KH seemed robotic right down to the fake smiles. The music seemed weird to me, too. My mother was the piano player years ago when they still used live music. Now, the music has no lift or spirit to it. No one seems to know the songs that well like we did in the old days. They seemed like drones in a hive. I've commented on this before in one of my posts because it was so SPOOKY to me.

  Question if anybody knows: Do the KHs HAVE to use the CDs? If a really good piano player wants to furnish the piano and play for the KH, is this allowed nowadays?
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  OnTheWayOut

  Watson said:

  The thought process has been layered in so well over the years that it just takes a word or two to trigger "what we are supposed to think."

  You can learn about this in COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL by Steve Hassan.
  This type of special language programming does work. It's not hypnosis. It's just that
  any dissonance within a brain over an argument presented by a nonbeliever can be
  reduced by these phrases and words.

  If people ask about changing doctrine, a believer triggers the response that
  "the light gets brighter" as time passes.
  If people question the errors in WT literature beyond that, the triggered
  response is "They are not inspired prophets." Stuff like that. This enable the believer
  to not have to think for himself. Not thinking reduces any disharmony or dissonance.
  I suppose you could say that reducing the need to think is rather hypnotic.
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  OnTheWayOut

  Do the KHs HAVE to use the CDs? If a really good piano player wants to furnish the piano and play for the KH, is this allowed nowadays?

  It might be different in areas where electricity is lacking or expensive sound systems are not
  possible, but I know for a fact that here in the U.S, where pianos and other instruments are
  available, they cannot be used for the Kingdom Songs during meetings. Conformity is
  important. They say that they want everybody to be singing the same way. I never realized
  what a crock that was, but it never sat right with me. I believe the standard music played is
  another form of triggering the words of the song, and agreement with them. Not true
  hypnotism, but still- lulling the mind and allowing it to skip thinking, just accepting.
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  heathen

  LOL@a ball game. Nope I still remember exactly what transpired . A young j-dub was giving a talk on thursday night he stops for just a second then says the name JEHOVAH , the next thing I hear is someone saying , " has forgiven you and you can do this" , in a different voice and the guy on stage continues speaking his talk like nothing happened out of the ordinary. Nobody mentions it later hoping they had decieved me since I was a newbie and suggested my desire to be a j-dubby . OH I tell you the canstant mindf@#$ that went on with those jack asses . If that isn't a form of hypnosis, to train yourself to be obedient to a book publishing corporation and every other janitor wearing a suit giving public talks , I don't know what is.
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  OUTLAW

  JW Hypnotist:"You are getting stupid..Very,Very Stupid!..When you wake up,you will be stupider than you were before..Be sure to come to the next meeting..You may all go home now!".....LOL!!...OUTLAW
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  White Dove

  I never experienced anything weird at my khall, and I've been a JW for 37 years. The only way that this might be possible is the bordom that alters most people's consciousness to a more suseptible level might interfere with judgement in separating the truth from the lie.
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  Seeker4

  Some of this stuff is laughable. Heathen especially. Are you off your meds and hearing voices? Your ideas are completely bonkers.

  No, having been in charge of thousands of meetings over decades of time, and dozens of assemblies and conventions, I can assure you that there is no electronic tomfoolery going, no voice-unders, no voice-overs, no suggestive tape loops, no hypnotic anything, covert or non-covert. The answer to your thread question is a resounding NO!

  There is, as has been mentioned, the constant layering of the same ideas over and over. There is a total lack of critical thinking presented, and there is at times over-powering boredom. Often hypnotism would have been a welcome relief!

  It's a silly idea, and completely without a basis in fact. Any long time, formerly active JW will verify this.

  S4
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  Anti-Christ

  I notice a few things like in a wt study every body understands a certain thing but when you read the bible verses in reverence and you read the context you could clearly see that it has nothing to do with the subject. When I read the bible now I notice a lot of verses I did not notice before when I was an active JW. It might not be hypnosis but it is mind control.

  There is, as has been mentioned, the constant layering of the same ideas over and over. There is a total lack of critical thinking presented, and there is at times over-powering boredom. Often hypnotism would have been a welcome relief!

  I think that sums it up quite well.
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  knock knock

  I have to agree with Seeker. On ALL counts.
  
  -goes monotone-
  We are not brainwashed. We have never been brainwashed. Brainwashing is bad. I mean we all need our brains washed but not in a bad way, in a good way. Brainwashing is good. We have always taught that.
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  Finally-Free

  I was always sleeeeeeeeeepy in the meetings. The elders didn't need to be trained in hypnotism. They just had to be themselves - incredibly boring.

  W