Watchtower Changes- Pointed Counsel - what -speculate

by stillajwexelder 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Stilla,

    I personally think private bedroom matters might surface again (this would be a turn-off and show cult status to the public)

    I also think there will be more direct begging for contributions (this would be a turn-off and show cult status to the public)

    I think there will be more "shaming" the brothers into pioneering

    I also think they will be a real big downer on Higher Education

    Nothing quite like shooting fish in a barrel. ;) Why not try something more adventurous :

    Picking your Pioneer partners nose with your mothers toes - is it selfless?

    Polyester suits - Do They Smell Like Raw Sausage When Wet?

    Is KennyG the Disgusting Thing That Causes Desolation?

    Should Inactive Ones Be Trussed up and dropped into Strangeways with an S8 pasted over their posteriors?

    Hannibal Lector - A panacea for fat Christians?

    etc. etc.

    HS

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Pointed Counsel,will be directed at Pointy Heads..Only Pointy Heads,will Understand the Pointed Counsel..How could anyone but a Pointy Head,get the point,of the Pointed Counsel?..To give Pointed Counsel,to someone without a Pointy Head,would be Pointless!.....Crazy Eyes..LOL!!...OUTLAW

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    I also think the mags will hit hard on reading outside literature or doing outside research.

    Yes definitely - the Sept KM is a foregleam of that - shit I just used a WT word

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    The guy on the right is the WT.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Where is the letter where they refer to 'pointed Counsel' as the reason behind this change.

    Well it is in print in the July KM Page 1, Column 3 line 3. If I find a scanned link I will post it

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Are you needing to be amused tonight HS ?

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/136554/1.ashx is where the phrase is used in the Kngdom Ministry

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    The Advantages: In the Study Edition, it will no longer be necessary to explain terms like "pioneer" in ways that non-Witnesses can grasp. This edition can also contain pointed information prepared especially for Jehovah's Witnesses and Bible students who are making spiritual progress. What about the Public Edition? Since the subjects and the style of writing will be directed toward the public, a non-Witness should enjoy reading the magazine from cover to cover. Of course, every Witness of Jehovah will benefit from reading each issue. Because we will be offering just one Watchtower with one Awake! in the field ministry each month, we will have an entire month to develop effective presentations.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I personally think private bedroom matters might surface again

    Such a negative subject for a religion that is on the verge of negative growth.
    I doubt this one.

    I also think there will be more direct begging for contributions

    Definitely. It will be stronger than ever.

    I think there will be more "shaming" the brothers into pioneering

    I disagree. I think the organization doesn't want more literature placed. I think the
    spin will be to serve in foreign language congs. and where the need is greater than
    where you are at. That will keep them busy.

    I also think they will be a real big downer on Higher Education

    Right on the button there. This counsel is becoming less effective, and more youths
    are leaving. Time to turn it up a few notches.

    There will be more counsel about daily WT literature reading- insisting that this will
    reduce worldly influences. More about doing as the elders and organization tell you to do.
    There will be much negative on the world, the churches, the governments, the MAN.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Here is one logical progression: The first issues will focus on obeying the Slave Class (i.e., the Governing Body). They will build on the September 2007 Kingdumb Misery to cut off outside sources for Bible research and make it a disfellowship offense to conduct or participate in an independent Bible research group or to dig into the accuracy of the New World Translation through any non-approved source.

    That established, they will start with the rebuilding of the congregations. Money issues are going to be hit hard, and the people are going to have to dig deeper into their pockets to give more. They might introduce tithing, but I don't think that will happen since many already give more than 10% of their income. They might focus on all our belongings belonging to Jehovah and what better way to honor Him than to use all our resources on Him. Wills are to be to the Watchtower Society, as are insurance policies.

    About that time, they will have harsher policies against disfellowshipped ones. One will have to totally shun disfellowshipped ones, even those that are our children, under threat of getting disfellowshipped. Those who become irregular will start having hounding sessions, as will those who drop out of the pioneer ranks. Inactive ones can expect more houndings. All-out recapture efforts on inactives cannot be ruled out--and that is especially true if there are hounders and their families that are dedicated to such action on a particular individual (whether or not the Society officially condones this remains to be seen).

    Education will be banned. At first, it will be a disfellowship offense to go to college or beyond high school. They might soon thereafter require those of legal dropout age to do so. Pioneering will be required (I remember in Japan, they had a situation where anyone who did not pioneer, and did not have extenuating circumstances, was shamed. That might happen here.) Whether or not they take that ban to the extreme remains to be seen. However, the Malawi party card situation tells me that they are in fact capable of banning all primary education except that which the Tower gives them.

    Coffee, tea, cola, and chocolate (and maybe all sweets) may be banned yet. They already mentioned that in April 2007 as a conscience matter. The "more pointed" counsel might include calling caffeine a drug and banning it (like they did with betel nut and tobacco in 1973). They might also tell people that they are supposed to be getting all their fun through the misery. At the very least, they are going to address the problem of people taking those damn coffee breaks and not getting anything done in the field.

    Breaks in service will be addressed. They might notice that people are hitting a few doors and then taking half an hour for a break too often. Running errands while in service might be "stealing". They might also require stopping one's time if one leaves the field to run an errand not related to the misery. Notably, they might take note that people are able to spend hours at a time doing door to door when the weather is "nice" (meaning that first warm day in spring or a brisk but not too cold day in fall). But they can't do it if it's bitter cold, extremely hot and muggy, or it's raining. They might order people to work as steadily in bad weather as in good. Things like pee breaks, Big Mac attacks, and coffee breaks might be delegated to lunch time--for sure, they might start insisting that your time stops as soon as you leave the territory to go on such a break.

    Only time will tell which, if any, of these things are actually going to happen and in what order. But I have the highest level of certainty in their banning college education, cutting off outside study sources, banning using the Internet on research, and focusing on the obedience to the Governing Body. That's because without those things, nothing else can hold. And they have been focusing on those already--so it's logical that they will start with these. Beyond that, anything goes.

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