My fading brother(ex-PO) thinks he was marked this week!

by nvrgnbk 48 Replies latest jw friends

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  Gretchen956

  This is one of the reasons I left. I was very depressed and on meds for it (who wouldn't be after being in an abusive marriage for 15 years). Went to the meeting and this a$shole of a MS gave a talk on depression. He enumerated "REAL" depression from excuses. According to him you weren't really depressed unless someone just died or something equally horrendous. Everyone else should just pray harder and pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Just after that I had a serious accident and could no longer attend for several months. The gossiping commenced and finished off the work of this moron on the stage. Never been back and never looked back.

  So hopefully this will be the thing that kicks your brother in the keester as well and shows him what a "loving" organization he has attached himself to.

  I'm crossing my fingers for you!

  Sherry
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  drew sagan

  I've never heard of them actually coming up with terms to describe those who choose to stay away and those who feel like they can't live up to it.
  
  Wonder if this understanding is in any of the publications...
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  Dagney

  She came home from meeting Thursday night and told him they had a local needs about the difference between "willfully" inactive ones and "discouraged" inactive ones. They said that one should not associate with the "willfully" inactive.

  This explains EVERYTHING!

  Is this in "print" or elder speak from elder school? I don't think this was spelled out in literature.

  I suspected this, but seeing the words...
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  nvrgnbk

  I think this is a new approach.

  They're too smart to put it in writing.

  Sorry you went throught that Sherry, but I'm glad you got out as a result of it.
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  eclipse

  I am so happy that you were able to free your brother.

  I hope that he has prepared mentally for his wife to leave,

  that way it will not be such a blow if she actually follows through with her threat.

  I, for one, am not surprised at all at the judgemental hypocrisy of his BOE.

  I have seen that attitude all too many times in my travels.

  I wish him all the best on his journey to freedom.
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  nvrgnbk

  Thanks, eclipse.

  He is ready for it.

  Fun way to have to live, huh?
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  LeslieV

  This crap is just fuel for gossip. Can you imagine the pioneers out in service, whispering around your sister-in-law. One of two things will happen...she will either she through their unloving behavior, or she will come to be so self-righteous that your brother's marriage will be down the crapper. I hope that this is the catalyst to push her and your brother out.

  Tell him we are here for him if he ever wants support.

  Leslie
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  journey-on

  Nvr

  I don't want to put a damper on your elation over this, but I DO have a question. I've personally thought that if I planted enough seeds, watered them, fertilized them just right, they might take root at some point, and voila!...my sister would see the light and come out of the org. But then I wonder about all the heartache, confusion, marital problems she would have, social network collapsing, etc. etc. (you get the picture?).

  If I thought I had anything whatsoever to do with a mental or emotional collapse as a result of my efforts to get her out of the borg, I don't know how I could stand it. HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THIS DILEMMA? I NEED TO KNOW!
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  nvrgnbk

  HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THIS DILEMMA? I NEED TO KNOW!

  Easy.

  I shared the womb with my brother.

  With the exception of my son, I love him more than anyone else on the face of the earth.

  He and I gave our youth to a lie.

  I feel special responsibility about that, because he followed my lead so to speak.

  What kind of person would I be not to let him in on that?

  I almost lost him for standing up for what is true.

  Now, he and I can laugh about it.

  If my SIL leaves him over it, she is a shallow person, not worthy of his love and devotion.

  He will find someone worthy of him.

  The real guilty party here is the CULT.
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  journey-on

  Thanks, Nvr. Your situation is special. I worry too much, I guess. I love my sister and my guilt would overwhelm me if anything I said or did caused her to suffer pain. I hesitate to drop seeds sometimes because of it. Then I feel guilty for THAT thinking I should drop the seeds. Dilemma...dilemma!