Would You Build an Ark... (page 3)

Open mind

Hello Shelby,

In addition to "unchecking HTML" you should probably "check" the "Automatic Cr/LF" box.

Try it in the future and see if it helps.

Open Mind

AGuest

you mean, it could be as easy as that? (Probably should put a "duh" here, yes?)

I'll have to check it out! THANKS... and peace!

Shelb

First off:

As always, LOL @ Da Ninja!!!

Shelby said:

"you [all] have actually made a response... and provided a “written record” of where you stand."

Well Shelby, the omnipotent, omniscient God you worship certainly doesn't need a puny human to actually press a few keyboard keys to know where their "heart" stands does he?

This exercise is really unnecessary.

But in fairness to the overall spirit of your post I will add this. God told Abraham to build an Ark. Oh wait. No. Stop. That's right. He told him to slaughter his son. Bible God at least had enough ethics to stop Abraham from going through with it. But then again, this was on a "good day" when Bible God was taking his meds. Plenty of other "bad days" of which we have a "written record" to document Bible God's blood-thirsty, psychotic nature.

OK, fast-forward a few thousand years. WT God asks JW parents to slaughter their children (no blood) and doesn't lift a finger to stop it.

Bible God. WT God. Sorry but, FOR THE RECORD, I don't worship either.

BTW, if some "higher power" comes along with some great explanations I'm all ears. Not holding my breath though.

Open Mind

AGuest

May you have peace!

the omnipotent, omniscient God you worship certainly doesn't need a puny human to actually press a few keyboard keys to know where their "heart" stands does he?

The record isn't for Him, dear Open Mind. It's for us, as are all things "written." It's just that when someone asserts, "I didn't say, do, mean, etc.," what is written will stand as a testimony as to what one actually did say, do, mean, etc. But I didn't share the purpose in order to instill fear in any one (why on earth would I want to do that? That is the "way" of a "false" christ...); I did it so that you all would know the truth: about the purpose and about my Lord's request for favor on our behalf. If you choose not to hear that, no problem. But you can't say I didn't tell you.

This exercise is really unnecessary.

For the reason you think it was done (i.e., to "test" you), perhaps. But it was not done for that reason. It was done so that those who wish it, will understand... and as a result, give thanks... for the mercy shown them. No offense, truly, but I don't necessarily expect you to understand that.

But in fairness to the overall spirit of your post I will add this. God told Abraham to build an Ark.

Ummmm... no, He actually told Noah... but I see where you're going...

Oh wait. No. Stop. That's right. He told him to slaughter his son.

Yes.

Bible God at least had enough ethics to stop Abraham from going through with it.

Of course, He did. And Abraham had no doubt that one of two things would occur: God would make a way out (which He did), or He would resurrect Isaac (which, through Christ, He will). What's the big deal? Oh, yes... the flesh...

But then again, this was on a "good day" when Bible God was taking his meds. Plenty of other "bad days" of which we have a "written record" to document Bible God's blood-thirsty, psychotic nature.

Like many, many others, you believe that the "Bible God" who kills in haste and out of anger... is the God of Abraham. Like many, many others... you are in error. The God of Abraham, the Holy One of Israel, did what was "natural" to Him: He kept Abraham from committing an unrighteous act, which Abraham would have done, without hesitation, out of his love for God. He (God) asked Abraham to show how much he (Abraham) loved God, by sacrificing, if necessary, his (Abraham's) beloved son. This was because God was going to do the same not only for Abraham, but Abraham's descendants through that son. That Abraham was willing to do it was the issue; not that he actually had to do it. Moving forward, the "Bible God" you speak of is not the God of my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. How do we know? Easy: my Lord said (1) that everything HE did, he observed the Father doing; (2) that he did NOTHING of his own initiative, but just as he saw the Father doing, he did; (3) that all things he did and said, he RECEIVED from the Father; (4) that the Father taught HIM; (5) and that although we had HEARD that we must hate our enemies, to the CONTRARY we must PRAY for our enemies... and PROVE ourselves sons of our heavenly Father. And he said that HE... came to bear witness to the TRUTH. Now, if he came to tell us what the TRUTH is, then someone must have been telling LIES. Yes? Who? Well, Jeremiah prophesied that the "stylus" of the "secretaries" would be "false." Do we know if that came to pass? We certainly do. How? Because, along with the false religious leaders (Pharisees), my Lord condemn the works of the "scribes" ("Woe, to you, scribes and Pharisees!"). I am sure you know what a scribe is: some who writes/copies the Law. Well, these most assuredly wrote and copied FALSELY. Whic is why my Lord said that HE... came to bear witness to the TRUTH. And the TRUTH is that if you wish to know God... you must first know Christ. Now, I know that Christ judged no one, condemned no one, killed no one, fed many, healed many, forgave many, had compassion and pity for many... and gave up on none. He searched for those that the religious leaders rejected; he released those enslaved by their consciences. And he even forgave those who put him to death - right before he died [in the flesh]. If HE, then, did all of these things... and HE said that what he did is what he saw the Father doing... and that the Father taught him to do such things... and that he did nothing of his OWN initiative but only as the Father directed him... then WE... through HIS "works"... should also know the "works" of the Father. Indeed, we have NO excuse. We can blame it on the false writings and false teachers all we want, but the truth is that IF you TRULY want to know God... then all you need do... is know the Christ. And that One said to me: "All that I say to you is written; but not all that is written is what I will say to you." And what he said has turned out to be true.

OK, fast-forward a few thousand years. WT God asks JW parents to slaughter their children (no blood) and doesn't lift a finger to stop it.

I beg to differ. True, the "WT God" may make such request, but you CANNOT say the Most Holy One of Israel (who is NOT the WT god - far from it!) doesn't lift a finger to stop it. They "listen" to their "god," rather than to Him. Because, through the Prophets and His Son, HE said: "Life... is in the blood" and "No one has greater love than to give his life... on behalf of his friends." I ask you: if my life is in my blood... and my friend needed my blood, my life... can I not give it and still say I love my friend? That would be a lie, wouldn't it? They say one cannot take blood. Where does Christ say that? True, James said that the Holy Spirit told them to abstain... from eating blood. In an evil attempt to put those who follow them back "under Law," the WT god and its minions have taken it further, stating that because it's intravenous, it's like being fed... and condemn the act of giving one's life for another, something Christ himself taught us to do. What they don't GET... and so cannot TEACH... is that MERCY... triumphs over JUDGMENT. So that even if it WERE "unlawful"... the law of LOVE... against which there is NO law... would COVER that "transgression." That you broke a law to save a life... would "cover over" the error. That is the very point of David eating the showbread! What they don't get is that rather than worrying about transgressing law, we should be learning from the Christ how to SURPASS it... which is only done by love. Love... IS the Law's fulfillment. Yet, you... and others like you... "listen" to everyone... except the One whom God told us to listen to: "This is my Son, the beloved - listen to HIM!")... and then blame God for your own hard-heartedness and hard-headedness. And you condemn those who lie to you and mislead you. Hypocrites. God did not tell us to listen to ANYONE other than His Son. Yet, the very people who tell you that God does NOT speak to you... are the very ones leading you into the pit. They are the ones telling you to withhold your life. They are ones telling you to judge... and even condemn... others. They are the ones telling you that you are not your brothers' keeper. And you people.... are LOVING it. LOVING being misled and lied to. Why? So that [you think] you will be able to say, "But, they told me that..." or "I heard it said by them that..." And, true, they will have to answer for such lies and falsehoods. But you... will have to answer for you... for why you listened to them... rather than to the One you were told to listen to. And what will you say? "They told me you didn't speak, so when you did, I didn't listen because I believed them...instead of you." I dunno: maybe it'll fly. I doubt it. But it doesn't matter, really, because, praise JAH, there is One who will plead for us... in spite of our hard-heartedness and hard-headedness. And why? Because HE... loves US... whether we love and/or listen to him... or not.

Bible God. WT God. Sorry but, FOR THE RECORD, I don't worship either.

Nor should you. The Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, has not asked you to. My Lord, His Son and Christ, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH has not asked you to. And I certainly have not asked you to.

BTW, if some "higher power" comes along with some great explanations I'm all ears. Not holding my breath though.

It doesn't work that way, actually. You are not likely to have some kind of "Saul of Tarsus" event, which seems to be the only one given credence by unbelievers. But, if you ever get to the point where you really want to know how it's done... and I mean really, not "oh, what the heck, I've nothing better to do, so whyn't ya show me"... give me a holla'. It's not as hard as you and others think. In fact, it's quite "elementary," really. I bid you peace. A slave of Christ, SA

Open mind

Thanks for doing your duty Shelby.

I appreciate you taking the time to write that. Unfortunately, it's nothing I haven't heard before.

Except for this part:

JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH

That was new for me.

Open Mind

AGuest

Dear Open Mind... truly. It was my privilege.

I appreciate you taking the time to write that.

Yes, but while that might be the "right" thing to say, it isn't exactly the "truth," is it? But if you think you must say that you do, then by all means do what you "need" to.

Unfortunately, it's nothing I haven't heard before.

Please pardon, then, my redundancy (although, perhaps there are others who have not heard it before, so there may be some benefit, yet...)

Except for this part: JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. That was new for me.

In that case, it was worth every second and every word, because perhaps now you will recognize it in the future. You know, when he speaks to you ('cause he ain't gonna say, "Hey, Open Mind, it's me, Jesus.") Again, I bid you peace, dear Open Mind, as well as a [truly] "open" mind... and heart.

A slave of Christ, SA

frankiespeakin

Hi Shelby,

Still playing the Prophetess I see,

Haven't seen your posts in a while, I hope you and yours are doing well.

Anyway I can't put any credence in a god who goes on temper tantums when things arn't going his way so I would tell him to go scaring sombody else, this god needs to get a life.

AGuest

and peace to you! I am doing quite well, thank you, and hope you and yours are, too!

I can't put any credence in a god who goes on temper tantums when things arn't going his way

Me either. 'Cause that "god"... and Christ... simply don't "add up." I mean, when I thought about what Christ said about himself, what he said about the Father... and what he said about how we should be... it just seemed to me that someone was lyin'. But who? Well, since the Bible itself states that the copyists copied falsely, and since Christ is recorded to have issued "woe" against the scribes (i.e., copyists)... my common sense said "someone ain't tellin' it right." But, just to be sure... I asked. And they didn't tell it right... which is one of the reasons why my Lord came in the flesh: to bear witness... to the TRUTH. About God. He showed us the truth about God... by how HE lived.

I would tell him to go scaring sombody else

And you should. I did. And I haven't seen or heard from "him" in years.

this god needs to get a life.

Indeed. The truth, however, is that he wants yours. It is up to you, though, whether you give it to him or not.

I bid you peace.

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

SA

frankiespeakin

Shelby,

I guess I'm no match in playing stump the Prophetess with you, you always get the last word

Would You Build an Ark...

ninja

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