How Can We Reach Witnesses who Won't Believe Child Abuse Allegations?

by flipper 28 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Brain Dead
    Brain Dead

    Make an e-mail account with Hot-mail, do not use your real name when they ask for it, attach web pages that have info on the abuse cases or any other topic regarding

    the JWS. do this a few times ...........I've done this a few times with my sister and she is on her way out of the cult.

  • flipper
    flipper

    SCULLY- Great way to keep the witnesses at a distance! How can they argue with you wanting to protect children or grandchildren? If they do their jerks! Not wanting to use kids as guinea pigs to experiment if a molester is really changed or not! very good take, I will use that one on witness relatives.

    CARLA- Yes. It's so important to keep banging the drum talking about this because the witnesses want it to go away. I know I'm gonna keep being that gnat in their face that won't leave.

    BRAIN DEAD- Excellent idea of doing that incognito to help people. Glad to hear your sister is leaving the cult! Good news! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • mcsemike
    mcsemike

    We just have to keep telling the public. Email your friends and family. Tell your neighbors. Write letters to the local newspapers. Eventually when the JW's come to knock on doors in the area, maybe most people will have heard about the child abusers and will question them on it before they even are able to take the latest WT mag out of their bookbags. If no one will talk to them at the doors and even chases them out or calls the cops, then they can't place much literature or collect "donations".

    Someday, I hope that most people just won't talk to ANY JW, whether at work or at the door, until they explain away their perverted child abuse policies. No JW can do so and we all know it. The trick is to pin them to the wall and not let them off the hook, period. When the JW's realize that the field service activity is dying off, then they'll have to make some drastic changes. Hopefully, one of those changes is to quit or else watch the WT die off.

  • flipper
    flipper

    MSCEMIKE- You are so right in saying we have to keep talking about this or it will die out, get swept under the rug. As you say writing newspapers, talking with people, especially witnesses coming to our doors. I pinned that elder and his wife for 30 minutes they were my captives to listen about the molestation issues. And I wanted to make sure they understood what their organization has done by written evidence , so they would have no misperception in their minds how wrong it is. Just have to keep talking! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • mcsemike
    mcsemike

    Flipper: You are right and I'm glad they listened that long. For every one JW in the world, there are 1,000 non-JW's. They can't possibly beat us. We just keep telling our friends. They go door to door. I know when I was a JW, hardly anyone listened to anything. If we can focus on the child abuse and the JW's are trying to place mags and talk about dozens of topics, we obviously can and will spread much more information (and TRUTH) about the WT and its child abuse policies. The odds are in our favor. I don't see how they can possibly do enough damage control to stop the flood now. I'm sure the AP and half the country that is following the WT's lying now knows about the secret settlements.

    Only the lowest weasels and skunks would pay all that money and demand that no one be allowed to make it public.Yet when they catch the Catholics doing the same thing, they gloat so hard you would think they might have a stroke. When the Catholic Church set up an 800 number for victims to call to receive help from the Church, they celebrated that. But if you call Bethel, YOU pay the phone bill. And their web site has NO EMAIL PROVISIONS. I am a network engineer and I can't think of even ten websites that don't have email.

    WT, WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?? THAT PEOPLE WILL SEND YOU MESSAGES OR PROOF THAT 607 BCE IS WRONG?? THAT SOME FLUNKY CLERK AT BETHEL WILL READ AN EMAIL PROVIDING PROOF THAT ELDERS AND GB MEMBERS ARE PERVERTS AND QUESTIONS THINGS AND QUITS THIS CULT?? WHAT IS THE REASON, WT?? WHY DON'T YOU HAVE EMAIL????? DON'T KNOW HOW?? YOU SPY ON WIRELESS LAPTOPS WITHIN PATTERSON AND BETHEL, DON'T YOU?? I KNOW YOU DO. YOUR SECURITY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU. WHY?? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?? COWARDS!!!!!!

    We are not going to go away. You cannot sue us to stop us. If you do, I'll still attack you. You will be hit whenever and however we can until you are destroyed. You can frighten a few young girls into not telling the police that some elder or other JW abused them. But you won't scare the rest of us.

  • theMartian
    theMartian

    You can reach us by stopping the ridiculous attack- and attacking your OWN church for the same problem. Or, if you're an Armchair 'Christian' just typing out attacks on your puter, attacking the OTHER churches- who, like us, have Pretenders among them as well!

    alt

  • flipper
    flipper

    Well, Martian, then all I have to say to you, is you yourself said it. There are pretenders in EVERY religion, which again shows that none of the religions are true, Jehovah's Witnesses included. In your recent tract, didn't the witnesses put down " false religions" because they cover up crimes of priests molesting children? How can you condemn other religions for what your own religion does? It just proves there is not a religion approved by God! God is in your heart personally, and no one can substitute that for you! Especially if they condone the covering up of molestation! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    I think the one thing they can't exscape and this is from talking to some active JW's is, "who will pay for this in the end?". Bring home the fact that it reflects on the "orginiazation" as a whole. Since these people were paid with everyones money it HAS to reflect on the org, and since Jesus faithful slave ordained it as good it HAS to reflect on the org. If it reflects on the org as a whole how could there possibly be any personal accountability, so therefore doesn't the whole org have to pay? After asking this I was asked, "well what are you supposed to do then?". I came back with "well not give them money and tell everyone I know about it so the problem can be solved". I just got a sad blank knowing stare.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Burger Time- Mrs. Flipper had a thought, I thought it was good. A lot of these witnesses don't want to admit to themselves or can't face up to the fact they have spent a lot of time, money and effort for nothing and have a hard time admitting a molestation settlement could happen. Thus you had the sad look response. They probably know it's true, but makes them sad to admit publicly to it

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