Conspiracy against the Watchtower

by Hiddenwindow 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • yknot
    yknot

    Sorry but the uprising from within has been put-down.

    If you start to research the legal departments goings on starting in the mid 80's you will find that they were in great hope of taking over. They changed the baptism questions to membership acceptance thus negating any and all future legal challenges from members ( i.e. you joined us, free will to leave any time). They also began dabbling more and more in secular legal cases. Later they settled suits against them to avoid having CO's and DO's defined by the courts as employees. Association with the UN greatly helped getting in to Eastern Block countries, the UN gave them "mainstream" status, allowed the legal department to make many new contacts and of course allowed them to represent the WTBS as a holocaust victim. Victim status goes along way in Europe. They were behind the restructuring of the GB duties to other "departments" run by non-annointed. All they had to then was wait until the current GB died or got far enough away from the 1935 doctrine. Then POOF they would be left to run the place, pushing us into the mainstream, losing doctrines that brought legal burdens like the blood issue.

    Unfortunately Bro Ted/Gene Smalley must have figured it out. So! what to do all of a sudden when Dear Bro Barber began to fade? (b. 1905 I think). Hmmmm...... well of course Bro Gene Smalley the little lackey came up with a plan to rid himself and the GB of the impending strangle hold of his nemesis the LEGAL DEPARTMENT (they were always whining about his pet project the BLOOD DOCTRINE). So he announced that in the QFR column (his writing outlet) that the annointed had not been filled in 1935, thus extending it to eternity and beyond. A meeting was called and the "flash up" was announced. Still needing the Legal Eagles, an agreement was struck which benefited all main departments as follows:

    GB- Goes on forever

    Writing Department in coalition with the GB can extract even greater control of flock

    Service Department- gets to print few magazines, cutting cost, labor, and building space. Are open now to consolidating not-profiting -us properties and expand their real estate ventures and selling used Co/Do cars (instead of donating them to need poor JWs).

    Legal Department- Gets a bone.....they get a WT all of their own! They are allowed to continue their quest for mainstreaming JW's image. Any deals that are made in disagreement with WTBS DOCTRINE are considered Theocratic Warfare. Besides with the GB/Writing putting forth greater constraints on the freedoms of the flock, no R&F JW will ever hear or read about the Legal Dept escapades.

    And thus ends the rebellion!

    That reminds me.....I need to inform the Service Dept. that having uneducated poor is unhealthy for donations. Mmmm maybe I can convince them that all JW's need to become professionals. Let me see how did Bro G put it in his recent Sunday Talk in response to the "no higher education" flash.........

    Oh I remember now.....He pointed out that he himself was B&R Jw but received a degree in Architecture. The degree allows him to work 3 days a week, to pioneer full-time, to do quick builds, and that he and his wife donate between 2000-5000monthly. His wife B&R JW too has a bachelors in nursing and works a few days a month. I heard her say she makes 55 dollars an hour!!!!

    OH well the above could have been the norm.....if LEGAL had won......ahhhh freedom as long as we paid handsomely!

  • Warlock
    Warlock

    Not in a million years!

    Warlock

  • Twitch
    Twitch

    A religion isn't a religion until it has a schism. Otherwise they're just small potatoes and doomed to obscurity.

  • The-Borg
    The-Borg

    The WBTS is ripe for a takeover but this will be no orange revolution. This is a Billion Dollar money machine, it's bound to attract some very unsavoury characters. The governing body are all getting very old. Who will take over and run the ship?. Think Rutherford, the sort of men who rise to the top of these type of organisations are egotists, sociopaths and arse kissers. Men of conscience like Raymond Franz and others will be discarded and beaten down.

  • FlipThis
    FlipThis

    not a chance

  • Gill
    Gill

    The WTBTS 'religion' is in constant flux and change and constant battles taking place within itself. It has evolved from a Bible study, prophesying publishing company, to a multi billion dollar, publishing and legal company with a bit of religion on the side.

    The battles within the WTBTS are going on all the time. The only signs are regular fiddlings with doctrines and the notorious flip flop doctrines.

    None of this has 'killed' mother yet!!

    But, the WT legal department is probably the only department that could destroy the WT as it becomes so afraid of legal action against it the WTSociety could freeze into total inaction, become too afraid to print any thing but the most boring BS (oh dear! Seems to have happened already). The attempts at control continue with the 'secret Watchtower'. But as we know, nothing 'secret' remains 'secret' and soe they will eventually be too afraid to publish those. Control of the 'masses' of JWs will slip away gradually. The older generation of thoroughly brainwashed individuals will dies off.

    Finally, WTBTS as we know and 'love' it will die.

    Why?

    Because the legal side were so afraid of the BS that the GB and FDS were writing that they put a stop to it.

    They will continue on for a while, finally disappearing into obscruity and infamy, much as Jim Jones and his followers.

    The 'Hangman' is the Legal department and the legal department is going to perform and slow and very painful garrotting of the WTBTS!

  • tula
    tula
    Like has been mentioned , a large scandal could do it. However I think the scandal would have to be in major newspapers for it to have an effect on witnesses leaving the cult.

    If you look at other scandals in religion land---people seem to have either a short memory, or cannot come to terms with having to admit they've been duped or made fools of. Just look at the Jim Baker scandal. All that thievery, lies, high living, immoral living, prison time...and he's still got stupid followers to this day. Ditto Henry Lyons former pres. baptist board. Lotta big bad publicity. Thieving, immorality, on and on and on. And look. They are all back and raking in the dough again with TV shows and moron groupies. Like nothing ever happened.

    So really, what will it take to end all of this oppression?

  • bobld
    bobld

    I believe it's already happining.The Lawyers are taking it over.You can see it,throwing.kicking all those faithful old workers out of HQ's---over 3k the last 2 years.Selling all the prime bldgs back to themselves.They will make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.Dangling a carrot in front of the brain washed slaves ie one A/W per month as something to look forward too.When all it is to save money no make more money.

    Bob

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    The one thing that could take down the Tower is lots of embarrassment. The more of these issues that end up in major newspapers, the news, Time magazine, and the Internet, the more people are going to think twice before joining. The Tower likes to bash the Catholic church for its child molesting scandals, and they get people to leave the Catholic church and into the Tower for that. So what if they were to find out that, not only the Witlesses have the same problem, but they are going to greater lengths to hide it than the Catholic church? Big embarrassment--lost recruits.

    Or, what happens when the Watchtower Society runs out of money? Granted, there are way too many suckers that donate massive amounts of money to the Watchtower Society. Here, I would like to personally thank Danny Haszard for his Watchtower Money--available on his Web site. Hopefully, there will be enough of those Zero Dollar Bills and Void Checks in the contribution boxes so they will not be able to pull off any more scams. And, when they pull the Kingdumb Hell Quick-Build Scam, people will donate precisely what I did: zero.

    Dry out the money and the source of new recruits, and then bust them with a few serious legal issues, and the Tower is going to have a mighty hard time standing. And, when people walk out, they will leave the organization weaker. I don't think there is any way for the Tower to reform from within; Raymond Franz did all he could to do that and failed. I am now hoping that people refuse to join, refuse to donate, and walk out.

  • sf
    sf

    many individuals who are currently being held hostages of the shunning policy and are in fear of losing their families.

    Held hostage?

    Please.

    Stop the drama already.

    sKally

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