THOSE WHO ARENT JEHOVAH WITNESSES (page 5)

mind my own

Ever notice that one of the main things JW's will use in their arguements against non-jw's is about not being able to live forever? It's like that is the only reason they are in the "truth", not b/c they genuinely believe the message or love jehovah and the organization. It's because they are getting something for staying in the org.

the333, you may be waiting a loooonnng time for the "end" to come...just ask around, wasn't it supposed to come long before now??

Don't feel sorry for us, we don't need or want your pity. We are better off...trust.

MMO

sass_my_frass

Good on you kid. It's good to have you along! You have yourself a great weekend.

fullofdoubtnow

all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion

Noooooo, we never do that, we just talk about the watchtower publishing business empire

btw welcome to the fprum

Awakened07

those who aren't in the truth i feel much pity for you. All of you are filled with much hatred and anger that all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion. I feel sorry for you that you will not have ever lasting life.

Welcome! Please come back and don't be a stranger.

I agree with you - I pity and feel sorry for myself as well. That said, I feel sorry and pity you too - the both of us for not having ever lasting life. And everyone else; the entire human race. It's a shame. -You can of course choose to believe differently than I do, though. Perhaps there are pink unicorns on the far side of the moon if we just believe hard enough, and need it enough.

I'm not really angry or hateful as you say, though. I'm pretty mellow. But you should know, that some people here have spent a good portion of their lives occupied with this religion, where they were advised not to have children or an education because Armageddon was so close. Over 30 years ago. For some - over 50 years ago. Or they had friends who chose not to have a blood transfusion which could have saved their life (no, not necessarily, but very likely). And now they believe what they learned as JWs was all a lie. I think we can afford them some hurt feelings which then turn to anger, can't we?

You're here - that's a start. When I say 'here', I don't even necessarily mean this place. You're on the internet, where information is abundant. Questions will inevitably arise.

Good luck.

(edited for clarity)

shell69

Sorry to be a dissenting voice; I think this person is really rude; Never have I come accross all the exdubs on here being so bad mannered with eachother, thats because we are free, and because we value all opinions!

Thats an attitude the333 could do with I think!

Shell

Locutus of Borg

333, I know you're reading this. I read every response to my first angry post to the old H2o forum way back in '97 or '98. The very fact that you got as far as even posting is very telling of your inner conflict, as it was with me.

I think it is also very interesting that you are here after the latest counsel from the Organization in the form of the Questions from Readers in the Sept. "Our Kingdom Ministry". If you really are a loyal and devoted JW then you have read that and been at the Service meeting this week when it was discussed.

So, why are you really here? Surely it's not just to yell at us and tell us how awful we are?

I am not full of hatred. I am angry at times when I see how my aging parents are in their late '70s, in ill health, in debt to their ears, with ZERO retirement income with the exception of a small SS check each month (small because of small donations into it) and my Dad has to work as a greeter at the local WalMart just to pay for the medicine that keeps my wonderful mother alive. They gave their lives to the Organization, (my father was PO, Elder, RBC, HLC, Spec Pioneer, Reg Pioneer) convinced that they would never grow old and die. Armageddon was coming *soon* so there was no need to plan for the future, was there? Yet I do not see the Organization supporting them or helping them in their late autumn years.

I am angry at times also when I see my fleshly brothers that are JWs following the same path to old age with no education, no retirement and no resources. We had a wonderful family reunion last month in New Hampshire. The only ones that didn't show? . . . my brothers who are JWs, (who both lived within an hours travel of the reunion).This was avery poor witness to the rest of the family and there was not little spoken about, esp when many of us traveled much longer distances, some from Florida and Canada.

My parents were there only because my mother insisted to my father that they be there. Why? Because I feel in my heart that she feels this is the last time she will see all her brothers and sisters and relatives before she passes through the veil. My mom has told me many times that she wished she could go back and do things differently, the biggest being making sure her four boys (I am the oldest) got a college education and planned for retirement so that they would not have the hardships that she and Dad have.

I am angry at times because I missed many years of any relationship with my relatives who were not in the Org. They have been more supportive and loving to me in times of hardship many times over than anyone in the *True Religion* ever was. When I was a stranger, they took me in, bandaged my wounds, fed me, and gave me money and a place to live until I could get it together. If it weren't for my *worldly* relatives and friends, I would not be alive to write thes things to you.

I have no hatred, only some anger and much sorrow. I am happy to be alive and live each day to it's fullest.

I hope you stick around to see that we are not a bad bunch!

Peace Out \/

coffee_black

Actually 333 it is I who pity you. I pity you because you are a slave to an organization that cannot give you salvation nor can they take it away. They are simply men who have control of your heart and mind...and your time. In all their convoluted doctrine they miss the meaning of true Christianity, which is love. Your post is evidence of this...it clearly shows the heart condition of those who follow the watchtower instead of God. What do you think Jesus would think of your post? I think he would address you as he addressed the Pharisees.

I'll pray for you.

Coffee

Who are you?

Ever notice that one of the main things JW's will use in their arguements against non-jw's is about not being able to live forever? It's like that is the only reason they are in the "truth", not b/c they genuinely believe the message or love jehovah and the organization. It's because they are getting something for staying in the org.

As a non-JW, I couldn't agree more with this. If you don't buy into the "being a JW and peddling magazines will save my ass" rationale, there is nothing that would motivate you to become or remain a JW.

fresia

Let you're utterences be seasoned with salt. If you have pity for us on this forum you have a very self righteous way of showing it.

I wish you well and hope that you will be able to handle the fall of the WTS and understand that it is not the sheep but the GB that you should be sending hate mail to.

bluesbreaker59

Hey 333,

Shouldn't you be out in service??? Or studying some of that "new light"??? Maybe there's a congregation picnic to attend? I'm sure there's "plenty to do in the work of the lord". Why should you be hanging out here with 'unrepentant sinners'? After all we're drunkards, revilers, fornicators, idolators, having no natural affection, and all that other horse shit they tell you.

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