IBSA AND WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES

by JEMIMAH 39 Replies latest jw friends

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Thinking about this and the UN thing -

    Already more than one loyal dub has said that the UN thing was probably the work of "apostates" suggesting that the WTS application was forged, as I suppose tha annual WTS reports to the UN would have had to be also.

    No doubt similar reactions will follow this revelation about the World Council of Churches, if it pans out to be true.

    But the interesting consequence in both cases will be that the revelation of these hypocritical relationships forces the WTS to change their behavior to conform to the image (if there's a pun there, take it) that they want to project, and as a result of their changed behavior, e.g., dissassociating from the UN, they LOSE whatever illicit benefit they sought in the first place.

    SWWWWEEEEEEEEET!

    So these revelations can be a two edged sword against the WTS - 1) their hypocrisy will be evident to anyone with open eyes; 2)the WTS will lose the boon they sought by forging such relationships in the first place when the public spotlight forces them to terminate the ralationship.

    I wonder how long it might take for the WTS to figure out that the poor GB elder whose signature appears on the UN application had fallen completely under the influence of deeminz. No doubt his behavior was completely cloaked from the omniscient Holy Ghost (whose name is Casper) by awesome sinister forces. Ohhhh, scary, kids!

  • JEMIMAH
    JEMIMAH

    What is the IBSA?

    Sorry in Brit Land the bethelites call the WTBS ,International Bible Students Assoc
    It has been the official name for years.
    However the new official name is WTBS of Britain

    Any searches are best used, using the IBSA legend, it tends to hide the obvious searches.

    It is there if you know where to look

    Jem

  • sf
    sf

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  • Trevor Scott
    Trevor Scott

    Jem,

    "What is needed is someone willing to carry out some digging in the info about the WCC"

    If you're still looking for someone, I'm game. You can email me at [email protected].

    TS,

  • anewperson
    anewperson

    During the Malawi crisis involving the dictator Banda years ago the Watchtower Society sent two male representatives to speak about the situation before the World Council of Churches, the first time any Jehovah's Witnesses had come before the WCC. It would not surprise us if there have been some lingering contacts, maybe even stronger than one would suspect. Hopefully you have found something more.

  • Celtic
    Celtic

    Did some research on this issue about 3 years back and found out the associated link between the two.

    Will help if need be where I can.

    Legal & Government docs on request.

    celtic
    [email protected]

  • Dark Knight
    Dark Knight

    Hey Jem,

    Do you know for sure that the IBSA you saw corresponds to the WTS and not some other organisation? For example IBSA also stands for Illinois Baptist State Association (IBSA)and it wouldn't be unlikely for such an organisation to have some affiliation with the WCC.

    Cheers
    Dark Knight

    P.S. This is my first ever post. So greetings everyone!

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    G'day Jem,

    Thanks for the greetings. I've not been able to visit the board for a coupla days due to being a little unwell. It musta been those camera-shy revelers at the Sydney apostofest!

    In your post, would you be referring to the UN/NGO debacle? or is it something else?

    Like MacHislopp I find this an area not to be dropped. I'm looking forward (if that's the right expression!) to 'hearing' more!

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
    Anonymous

  • JEMIMAH
    JEMIMAH

    Thanks for all the replies.

    Oz, it is a different matter to the UN issue, by the way London has been trying to keep it quiet from the bethelites so far without success.

    Because of only a few people at London who have found out about the WCC matter, I have to be really careful.

    However there is certainly a paper trail, one small piece of it, inadvertantly passed my desk.

    There are records on the net, which show foul play by branch in Britain.

    I know that they are trying to delete any connections or web pages that contain such info, however there will be cached copies somewhere.

    Jem

  • nelly136
    nelly136

    . http://www.charitiesdirect.com/charity4/ch006774.htm
    Total Income £24.4m
    Admin costs as % of
    Total Expenditure 3.93%
    Admin costs as % of
    Total Income 2.16%
    Total Funds £22.6m
    Total Investments £28.8m





    Formerly: Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania [The]

    Address: IBSA House
    The Ridgeway
    London
    NW7 1RN
    Aims: The encouragement and support of Christian worship and ministry in Britain

    Tel: 020 8906 2211
    CC registration: 1077961.
    Founded: 1884.
    Constitution: Company.
    Coy reg no: ENG:3858051.

    nelly

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