Linguistic Scholar Chomsky: "Manufacturing Consent" (about news media) (page 3)

franzy

i've read some of chomsky's books, including manufacturing consent.
one thing i prize in him is his fairness. whoever does the killing,
gets the credit for it. whoever engages in terrorism, gets credit
for it. simple!

naturally, the USA gets a lot of credit for terrorism, since (by their
own definition) they engage in it so much, or abet others in doing so.
the USA is not the only country or group employing terrorism, just one
of the biggest and most active.

i happen to know that chomsky does not condone anyones terrorism or
killing, ours or theirs.

so, ROLLERDAVE, could you please show by chomsky's own words why, among
other rather pompous remarks aimed at him, you said:

"The man is a hack, an apologist for Marxism and an accomplice to Pol Pot's full-time hobby of slaughter, his hands are as bloody as the system he excoriates. Pot, meet kettle."

EMY THE INFIDEL, could you illustrate the truth of the following remark
you made, by showing which of chomsky's words bear it out?

"RollerDave -- I wasn't going to mention Pol Pot and Chomsky's condoning of his mass killings."

bisous

I adore Chomsky. The truth is sometimes painful to hear ... or read .... but thankfully there remain great minds amongst us attempting to provide enlightenment. N. Chomsky's insights on the illusion of corporate america and the fabricated *un*reality it represents are stellar, and some of my favorites to read. Yeah, yeah the *marxist* ... *commie*....and *traitor* accusations are familiar barbs which fail to pierce.

Abaddon

Roller Dave

Chomsky is a marxist hack.

BTW, that's a very nice Ad Homonym you got going there

And you are a hypocrite. Attacking someone with an ad hom and then criticizing someone for an ad hom leaves no logical alternative. Or do you not understand the term?

What I object to is that this fool basks in the title 'greatest living scholar' when he is best known for his 'work' outside his field, in the realm of opinion.

Well, for a start, that's a straw man. Please prove he "basks in the title 'greatest living scholar'"; other people calling him that is not proof he 'basks' in it. It proves you have chip on your shoulder, if anything. And you know what about linguistics exactly? Please, give us some benefit from the breadth of your knowledge and tell us who IS the world's greatest linguist?

And, if you are a clever as you seem to think you are, where are the fallacies in his argument, say over 9/11?

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The wiki article cited shows that in a career of several decades, Chomsky has made a few mistakes in quotation which have been admitted, and in the area of theoretical lingusitics has a few people who disagree with him, and has been subject to what was normally little more than character assassination by the attack dogs of the right.

As the most fervent critics of Chomsky support a political regime that was either totally incompetent in its assessment of the reasons for war or deceitful in its presentation of facts to garner support for a war, I really don't know what point they are trying to make - maybe that they lick the ass of their policial love whilst if defecates in their face, and then turn their besmeared face to criticize others of supposed faults?

But as they support a regime that has used repetition to convince the public of lies (who else are responsible for so many Americans still believing falsehoods over WoMD?) using the repetition of attacks (most of which are rebutted) is straight out of their political masters style book.

Political masters? Well, yes, unless you are in the top 20% of earners in the US, whether you like it or agree with it or not, you are provably supporting regimes that benefit you economically little if at all whilst the top 20% get richer. This is a fact. That certainly makes you look like servant to me.

And just as there have been forelock pulling supporters of the status quo in the past, so too are there today. It's just they have been sold a far more sophisticated set of lies than the feudal or early idustrial system relied upon.

Don't worry, I don't expect you to agree with me, LOL...

franzy

EMY THE INFIDEL-

on first reading of the thread, i barely glanced at the right wing
satire you posted from 2005.

on second look, i get the sinking feeling that you thought you were
posting real news, ie, something that actually happened!

Warlock

The Lefties only come out when they are not in power. Otherwise, when they are in power, "their shit don't stink".

Warlock

Warlock,

You bring me Chomsky!!!!!????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You might as well bring me Bozo the Clown.
Warlock
You are someone I can count on to always says nothing of any substance.

That's because you don't deserve substance. You deserve what you are getting, ridicule. Warlock

franzy

wow! reaching for profundity there, WARLOCK?

i think you were right in your first post on this thread:
bozo the clown is much more your speed than chomsky.

franzy

btt

so ROLLERDAVE and EMY THE INFIDEL can document their charges against
noam chomsky.

surely they have read chomsky, as we know they (as persons of integrity)
would never make such demeaning characterizations without being
intimately familiar with chomsky's own words.

Warlock

wow! reaching for profundity there, WARLOCK?

i think you were right in your first post on this thread:
bozo the clown is much more your speed than chomsky.

The problem with people like you, Chomsky, and the whole lot of you, is, you feel you are entitled to MY opinion as well as yours. You are definitely guilty of everything you accuse others of. By others, I mean those who hold the opposing view. Every name in the book that you hurl at others, YOU YOURSELVES ARE..........EXACTLY THOSE THINGS. If you had your way, your opinion would be the only opinion on earth. I mean, what the hell do you think? You are not talking to a 21 year old who you are holding captive in class, and that is the part you just cannot stand. Warlock

franzy

thanks for bumping the thread, WARLOCK,

as it gives opportunity for someone else, who might have
something to say.

Linguistic Scholar Chomsky: "Manufacturing Consent" (about news media)

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