Linguistic Scholar Chomsky: "Manufacturing Consent" (about news media)

by frankiespeakin 47 Replies latest jw friends

  • Warlock
    Warlock
    thanks for bumping the thread, WARLOCK,

    as it gives opportunity for someone else, who might have
    something to say.

    You're welcome. Warlock

  • franzy
    franzy

    WARLOCK

    as you seem to be willing to spend much energy bouncing around
    saying nothing, and since RD and EMY have not responded,

    how about documenting one of the charges against chomsky, since
    you apparently agree with them?

  • Warlock
    Warlock

    Franzy,

    I have been through this before, here and another site.

    You are really not interested in my opinion or my sources. It will NEVER be good enough, or "clean" enough for you and people like you.

    Warlock

  • franzy
    franzy

    "you are not really interested in my opinion or my sources"

    really? i'm engaging with you.

    chomsky is the source, by the way. if the charges are true, then
    they are easily demonstrated. he has never been shy about his
    analysis. it's all there in volumes.

    have at it!

  • FreeWilly
    FreeWilly
    FS: "I don't think your link gave very much evidence for what RD is saying. If you consider it as evidence pehaps you need to look a little closer than just a cursory glance."

    Regarding Chomsky's published apologetic views of Pol Pot's regime, the link provided the following citations of Chomsky et.al.:

    "journals as the Far Eastern Economic Review, the London Economist, the Melbourne Journal of Politics, and others elsewhere, have provided analyses by highly qualified specialists who have studied the full range of evidence available, and who concluded that executions have numbered at most in the thousands; that these were localized in areas of limited Khmer Rouge influence and unusual peasant discontent, where brutal revenge killings were aggravated by the threat of starvation resulting from the American destruction and killing."

    "But if postwar Cambodia is more similar to France after liberation, where many thousands of people were massacred within a few months under far less rigorous conditions than those left by the American war, then perhaps a rather different judgement is in order."

    I consider these direct citations (and a slew of others in the article) as "supporting evidence to [the] rhetoric" don't you? Sure they might not complement his political assertions, but surely you are not suggestion these are fabrications are you? Perhaps you can set the record straight for me.

    Speaking of fabrications, what do you make of Chomsky's fabricated and contextually innaccurate quotations in support of his anti-american view? (Pres. Truman, Sam Huntington, etc) Doesn't this strike you as intellectual dishonest?

    What I see is a man who tries to parlay his academic acheivements to legitimize his extreme political leanings. His desperation is readily apparent in his readiness to misquote and sometimes even fabricate citations of others. The bias is so extreme as to render him unreliable for anything outside his narrow field of study.

    Now go ahead, tell me how I have it all wrong.

  • ringo5
    ringo5

    I watched the whole video, and while I agree with some of his points that the U.S. government and or corporations influence the media , I don't agree with the inference that it's a conspiracy , or as pervasive as he suggests.

    For instance he talks about sports such as the NFL , that they are only there to serve as a distraction to the witless masses from the true agenda of the "elites", that is the control of the population at large. The guy really offers no proof of this, yet we're supposed to accept this outlandish claim on his word.

    Applying Occam's Razor, might a simpler alternative explanation be that, as a form of marketable entertainment , it has just become a multibillion dollar business due to

    A: satisfying an entertainment niche and

    B: following a good business model?

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I just happen to come across the DVD of this at my public library, and the sound is so much better, so much I missed because my hearing.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Not Chomsky, but an example of the propaganda of the American News Media.

    Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565

  • What-A-Coincidence
    What-A-Coincidence

    re your last post:

    Anonymous
    Jul 10, 2007 Mark as Spam
    This movie is clearly intended to expose the suffering of the Palestinian people at the hands of the Israeli military forces. I think it is extremely informative. It doesn't condone the suicide bombings, but offers an explanation for why they happen.
    The killing on both sides is disgusting. Israel, however is clearly the occupying force - the Palestinians are not subjugating the Israeli people.
    It seems like some of you haven't watched the movie... typical.
    .... MH
    Jul 4, 2007 Mark as Spam
    In a topic where it is impossible to find a balanced view point, this comes the closest, yet it is still obvioulsy biased WOW! Great video!!! MSM is so controlled it's not funny.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    To go along with the Palistine video posted above.

    Palestine, Iraq, and U.S. Policy:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6984902441221936589&total=46&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8

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