Here's a hint

by Junction-Guy 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • FadingAway
    FadingAway
    Point is dont tell someone to live a happy life and then ignore them, trample on them, and expect them to be happy with it and enjoy it.

    I agree with what you are saying JG, but I think sweetface has hit the nail on the head, simplistic or not. I believe that we are responisible for our own happiness and have to recoginize and get rid of the baggage that holds us back from doing that. Good people like you can facilitate that process, but ultimately it falls on the individual. They have to make the choice themselves to be happy or not.

  • Junction-Guy
    Junction-Guy

    There are several posters I could name, but Im trying to keep this positive.

    I will say something good. Dawg went out of his way to make friends with me, even though Im Republican, Even though Im conservative, despite my sexual problems.. He went out of his way, and he was nearly run off the board here because he is an activist.

    Activist means action, it doesnt mean telling people what to do, it means showing them.

  • sweetface2233
    sweetface2233

    Kudos to dawg for reaching out to you! I have had certain posters reach out to me as well as doing the same. Are you reaching out to others, too?

  • ButtLight
    ButtLight
    Although I agree that everyone needs a real friend, happiness comes from w/in. You can't make anyone else happy and you can't get your happiness from anyone else. Once you are at peace w/ your life and situations, happiness follows.

    I agree with that to a certain extent. You should try to be at peace w/yourself, but sometimes its hard. So for me, I can get my happiness from others. Friends and others that uplift you and make you laugh, can help you be at peace.

  • Junction-Guy
    Junction-Guy

    Numerous times in the past, and I was ignored.

  • Junction-Guy
    Junction-Guy

    Exactly buttlight, Exactly.

    When I lived in Kentucky, I delivered pizzas and money was real tight. I had an old car, I was still scared sh-tless about Armageddon, but the one thing that helped me through was that I had a group of friends, that were my age, my peer group. I hung out with them, I went fishing with them, we laughed, we talked, and it made a whole world of difference.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    I agree, JG.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    "happiness is the best revenge"

    This post is for no one in particular and for anyone who might find it helpful.

    I have heard ex jws say something similar, but it goes something like this: "Living a good life, after you have left the org., speaks volumes to those still inside the org. ." I like this concept better.

    I have been on this earth for decades now....next birthday will mark half a century for me. I have learned something very important and it is this: Happiness is not a state we can depend on in life to be constant and never ending. Happiness comes in doses. Some doses are big and last longer and some are smaller, like some happy moments in an otherwise bad day. I guess I'd encourage people to shoot for planning their lives in such a way as to enjoy more contentment. Then of course, encourage all the happiness in your life that you can. At times though, happiness is just not going to be possible or even under your control.

    Let me tell you, over the past year, there have been days and weeks and even months at a time where life was so painful and yes, unhappy, that I wondered how I would live through it. There were many awful things happening that were beyond my control. I don't think there are very many people who can go through the kinds of losses my family and I have and still smile and be happy through the whole ordeal.

    But................and this is important...........I am not destitute, or homeless or living in the streets, starving, friendless or penniless, like I'm sure many current JW's, especially my siblings, were just sure I would be after leaving the org. As a matter of fact, I am much more healthy and I do suffer far fewer depressive episodes now that I am out from under WTBTS's heavy, burdensome yoke.

    I have friends. I have a much healthier form of worship or spirituality and lifestyle. I let the love in me dicatate my moral code, rather than fear or the dogma of some denomination or faith. I can be ME. I love being able to be me.

    I think sometimes the bitterness with which jw family members and former friends shun us reflects their level of envy over our freedom to live our lives without the control of the governing body.

    Friends to laugh with, to cry with, they can really enhance the contentment and happy times in our lives. And it's important to be a friend to yourself.

    Live a good life and it will speak volumes to those you left behind in the org. When I say live a good life, I mean staying on the right side of the law, not engaging in destructive behaviors and habits and trying to take care of you and those you love in the best way you can. Count your blessings and enjoy your freedom in a responsible, way. Laugh when you can, cry when you need to and above all, find out who you are and be true to yourself.

  • dawg
    dawg

    Maybe I reached to you JG because you're a beautiful person... I've read your threads here for about a year now, and you have intellect and honesty-just what anyone would want in a friend. I've been meaning to contact you lately, just to see how you are. But I've been self centered becasue the crap I was going through in my personal life-please accept my appoligies.

    I think of the crap we go through, I hear what you're saying. It'd be great if we started a commune for ex-witnesses so I could walk out the door with my burbon and coke and just talk.

    I have friends here in Athens, But it taks an ex to kknow one... this forum has been like a breth of air...becasue all my worldy friends-just kidding-don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

  • John Doe
    John Doe

    I'm happy--I just made a poopie! ;-)

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