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by nimzo 177 Replies latest jw friends

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  AuldSoul

  nimzo,

  I have a problem with someone claiming to be Christian and flying a different banner than that of Christ. When Peter spoke to Cornelius (who was NOT a Jewish proselyte) he spoke less than 200 Greek words to Cornelius about Jesus and Cornelius and all his household were baptized immediately with Holy Spirit even as Peter and the 120 had been. He did not have to dedicate himself to Jehovah. There was no mention of Jehovah at all. He did not have to attend even one meeting before baptism. He didn't have to preach to a single person before being baptized, in fact there is no Scripture indicating an unbaptized person would ever be qualified to preach the Good News. Cornelius didn't have to make a public avowing of his allegiance to an organization. (Acts 10, 11)

  If it was just Cornelius that would be one thing. But the Philippian jailer and Lydia were likewise unencumbered by any of the JW prerequisites for baptism. (Acts 16) As was the Ethiopian eunuch. As were the 3,000 plus baptized in a single day. (Acts 2)

  Christ was sufficient knowledge for baptism. Why do JWs insist on so MANY unscriptural requirements prior to baptism? Why the organizational barriers between Christ and his disciples?

  You follow men who have led you wrongly. They teach a doctrine that shuts up the kingdom of heavens before men. They don't go in and they prevent those on their way in from entering.

  —AuldSoul
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  fifi40

  So why are you here Nizmo
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  nimzo

  fifi40 I just watched the Red Sox win the world series.. I must release my anger on someone.
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  AuldSoul

  nimzo,

  I hoped you would quote the Lord's prayer. Surely you agree Jesus always glorified and sanctified his Father's name, right?

  Well, why didn't HE use the Father's name in that model prayer? You are certainly mistaken when you assume what form of honor sanctification and glorification takes. It isn't about the use of the name (Jesus didn't ever pray to YHWH by name), it is about the glorification of the one for whom the name stands; exactly like being baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

  Once again, you prove yourself mistaken.

  —AuldSoul
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  Junction-Guy

  How are you keeping a name holy if you are mispronouncing it?
  
  No one knows the true original name of God. Jehovah is the english standard that is used. Yahweh is probably more closer.
  
  Maybe the Jews were right, that it disrespectful to mispronounce a name that you dont even know.
  
  Like I said it is the name of Jesus under which we can be saved, there is no other name to call on.
  
  And I already know what your next argument is.
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  Mr. Majestic

  Nimzo, you are now falling into your own trap. It is now you that is not answering questions that you don’t wish to answer and keeping to ones that you want to. Being so selective proves unreasonableness. You're loosing old chap. And what’s with the attitude?
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  fifi40

  Ah.......so this is you releasing anger.............why be angry at enlightened strangers..........I'd get angry at the nerds who have been misleading you for who knows how long

  Seriously you should stick around........with as many questions as you can find.

  And as for the red sox........tis only a game.......chill.....hee hee
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  Dorktacular

  Personally, I think the Red Sox winning a World Series is one of the signs of the Apocalypse! I wonder if we'll see that in the Watchtower??
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  nimzo

  AuldSoul I have a problem with people proclaiming to be a Christian when they don't (a)Follow in Jesus foots steps (b)Make Jehovah known (c)do not do the will of the Father. I'm going to give you a sort response on this one because I'm getting tired. Knowing these people were lead by God and baptize with holy spirit, God could view their hearts and decide who is worthy enough to gain salvation. Also, this is something Jesus did too when he told the officer that he will be with him in paradise.. We cannot make these decisions today because God doesn't speak to us like he spoke to the prophets of old.. We have to make sure they are ready they are ready in their repentance and and so forth. If you believe people should get baptized right away, then you are wrong, because to be baptized, you have to CHANGE your life and repent.. and this is something that cannot be done by within days. So yeah, im done talking with you because this is something you should have known.
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  nimzo

  fifi40 this is coming from a woman.. and as you know, women are allergic to sports.