by Carl_Hernz 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
I think the question comes down to 'Do any Christians here think Islam is based on revelations from Allah?'
If the answer is yes, then a change in religion may be on the cards.
If the answer is no, and the reason for this answer is that there is no good reason or evidence available that shows Allah inspired the writers of the koran, then it can just as easily be turned around on Christianity.
Carl, I alwys enjoy your posts, but damn man... don't get too worked up by someone here on the board...I used to be that way until one called me a mean drunk-this after I hadn't drank in days. THis board is just like society, there's asses and people you'll like here and vice versa... take care bro and keep it cool
serotonin:
The assessment of Islam by some modern Christian theologians, such as Hans Küng, would surprise you I guess:
Void-Eater, you said:
Most Athiest I've spoken with have had a "devotional" nature to the non-existence of a god
Well that hasn't been my experience, and I belong to the Minnesota Atheist organization. True, I haven't interviewed each member in depth. But from what I've seen there is more a "devotional" nature to logic and science. Most of us don't dogmatically assert there is no god, just that there isn't enough proof of one to be convincing. That's all.
It's similar to the question -- do you believe in Santa Claus? Why be dogmatic about it? It may not feel logical to you, but who has examined every corner of the earth in an effort to disprove the existence of Santa Claus? Most adults disbelieve the Santa story based on a reasonable conclusion due to available facts. It's the same with the atheist toward a God, or at least toward a God who is at all involved with planet earth.
Apologies to all offended, especially atheists who I am NOT attacking. Forgive me where I
failed in not making that clear enough.
This post is NOT in any way meant to prove that the theological teaching of Revelation is
true. There is no data here supplied for that, and according to the teaching of Revelation
requires faith for its acceptance. I am NOT saying in any way that such a teaching is real
or true, merely that this what the current teaching is.
Yes, it is a long post. Again, so sorry. Not meaning to ramble.
Because I am a theologian should not imply I believe in God or am religious. I know that
sounds odd, but unfortunately this is another one of those things I am talking about in
this post, namely that the Watchtower sometimes seeps so deep in us that something like
this is often seen as an attack to some or if someone makes a statement based on research
that he has to accept everything that research says.
I do not believe all the forms and points of current theology. In a nutshell, all I am
saying is that here is the back ground where Christian theology CLAIMS to get its start.
Also, that even though atheism is not a single form ideology and differs greatly from one
person to another, some people MAY have chosen it based on what may still be perceived as
facts from things entrenched from Watchtower experiences. I believe that the contacts I've
had with some people, not all atheists and not all on this board, points to such a
condition among some ex-JWs. Apparently that was missed (my fault entirely then), but if
I left out too much data I don't satisfy those who want more, and if I put too much...well--see...
No high horse here, please. Don't shoot the reporter...just saying the Watchtower can keep
us feeling and acting judgmental when it really may not be any part of the real us.
Thanks for the link Narkissos.
I'm no scholar (obviously!) but if Allah and Yahweh are one and the same, why would he inspire two contradictory books he knew would end up causing so much strife in the world today? Is it multiple personality disorder? These kind of questions pop up instantly in my head whenever someone claims he's the 'author' of both books.
thankyou for your post. I think short, sharp sentences would make your points much better. Your sentence structure is such that (and I appologize) I switched off after about 4 sentences.
Religions that accept some form of evolution (not necessarily full blown Richard Dawkinism) would be taken more seriously and not seen as dogmatic
It is very dense writing. The first time I read anything like this myself I had to
re-read over and over again. Now I write this stuff?!
And again, please forgive me, especially those who took this personally...as I
pointed out (please re-read) I believe that people's freedom of conscience to make
ideological choices should be protected, and as that paragraph in which I detail
this points out, this includes those who chose atheism, not just theism. I am still
learning how to write for a board like this, and apparently I have a very long way to go.
Gopher: And certainly you are one of the more thoughtful, interesting and inspiring folks on the board! ;-)
