by flipper 47 Replies latest jw friends
Flipper,
My sister said that there was a "general warning", but no specifics as to the topic. Just that the dubs may hear discouraging things about former witnesses, that these witnesses were sinners, and that the organization does not condone sinners....
Skeeter
I am waiting for the opportunity to talk to my brother - I'm not sure when this will happen, but it will happen sooner or later. My bro listens to me despite all the "warnings" he gets about me b/c I left the religeon. I will tell him about this b/c I am not certain he knows. I am sure he will make some excuse like he always does but I am planting seeds...I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will work one of these days. Slowly but surely I am picking away...
MMO
Mr. Flipper, I just got back from a small vacation.
I used the delay of the news to my advantage. The JW wife would not have seen the
broadcast whether it was aired Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. So I go on the internet on
Saturday to "catch up on news" and I said that I specifically wanted to know about the
cruise ship rescue in the Antarctic waters.
I tell the wife, "Look, I found something else here on NBC's video site. It's about Jehovah's
Witnesses." She watched with me because it was clearly a legitimate news source. She
was silent, and made absolutely no comments after the clip. That's good, because she would
normally say, "Well, that story is ... They report the cases to the police..." She did not try to
defend WTS at all. I did not attack them anymore, just let the news sink in.
Sadly, she'll probably move on and try to put it behind her. But it's another thing to add to what
I have told her that "Elders are not trained to handle things properly, just to cover the legal culpability
of MOTHER." Months back, we talked about the pedophile cases. (She only knows what I have
told her, as no other JW's ever talk of such a thing or generally hear anything.) I said it would be
fairly simple to ALWAYS turn the matter over to authorities, admitting that elders are not trained
counselors, and that the children need special care beyond elders' abilities. The congregation can
follow the results of the legal case to decide when to warn the congregation, even if their Biblical
"two witnesses" are not there.
I sent the Youtube linking to my brother, sister, and parents. So for the only one who responded it my brother, who has a healthy distrust of the bOrg. He thought it was cool and also skimmed over some of the other jw videos. He didn't know that there was so much jw stuff on Youtube. And he thought that the comments from jws were comical and asked if they should be commenting when they're not supposed to be there. He asked why I had sent it to the parental units and I said I can't help trying but they mostlikely won't look at anyway. Bro said you're right cuz the internet is Evil *snicker* My brother is funny.
Josie
SKEETER- That is certainly spin control what your sister said they announced in her congregation ! Telling them that , " they may hear discouraging things about " FORMER " witnesses , blah, blah, blah. " Yeah, they won't present it truthfully that these molestations occurred when these molesters were CURRENT witnesses in good standing still in the religion. Typical cult mind control . Confuse the information then you confuse the masses.
MIND MY OWN- Good job. Yes, please plant seeds in your brother. If he respects you, he just may well listen to you !
OTWO- That was smart the way you handled that with your wife. Let her "see " the news on her own with her own eyes. Good job. True if she was quiet in response she may have well been sad or melancholy a bit over the information, but consider this thought. A sad reaction by a witness could indicate a better reaction than an angry reaction. It could mean she is digesting the information and thinking about it now ! She might not necessarily move on and drop it, she really might meditate on it and kick it around in her mind for awhile yet . Wouldn't that be a good thing ? Time will tell.
MRS. JONES- Good job sending the information to your parents, brother and sister. Your brother sounds cool ! It will be interesting to see what mom and dad say though ! Keep me posted, I'm interested to hear! Good work, sis ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
The recent AT&T settelment drowned it out here.
5GO- I think the witnesses will be buzzing about this for some time to come now that it is on the national scene via the news. It is up to us to keep it alive ! I certainly intend to do so ! peace out, Mr. Flipper
Bumping up to see if anyone has new experiences of talking with their family members on this subject
