OK, Blue. I'm going to sleep.
Do You Realize That Satan Is Supposed To Be Almost As Powerful As Jehovah?
by minimus 35 Replies latest jw friends
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oompa
Thanks Mini. That is clear and simple logic. (and of course we could only expect simple things from you!)
yeah...............lol................I really do like it and will use it soon. had nothing to add, but needed to mark it....thanks!.....oompa
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blueviceroy
My understanding of Satan is that his role is neccessary , according to most relgions this archtype of evil and domination is the great temptation from the light and thus ensures our seperation from our source if we choose it's dominion.
My real life experience is that we all have this nature within us as well as the altruistic nature that is in harmony with our source.
The evil/egoic nature is evident in our glorious leader George (the ass wipe) Bush. As well as our
victimadversarys in the middle east.The key aspects to this nature would be the imposing of ones own will on another to the detriment of them and the agrandisment of self.
Sound about right?
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Blueblades
I like that scene in The Godfather, the Baptism scene. Where Michael is denouncing Satan and at the same time killing off all the heads of the opposing crime families.
Do you Michael denounce Satan? I do. Bang! Over and over till they are all dead.
Do you Blueblades denounce Satan? I'm waiting until he offers me an offer I can't refuse, like an Apple instead of that Carrot.
Blueblades
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Frequent_Fader_Miles
Satan the Devil is setting his sights upon anyone he thinks he can get.
Getfor what exactly? To "serve" him by doing wrong or bad things? What could Satan ever get from the service of humans ... glory? Wouldn't it be worthless in the end since he'll be destroyed anyway? As was mentioned before, God isn't going to miss those destroyed.
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The Oracle
yup.
It doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense does it?
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flipper
Shhh ! Don't tell Jehovah, he'll get pissed ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
I never thought of this, very good point. Esp considering that I, as did many here, grew up terrified of whispering what our biggest fears were because Satan, while he cannot read our minds, can hear our words and is waiting to leave cigarettes on the sidewalk for us to find and smoke them.
They 'splain that god isn't omnipresent, as you said, but lead us to believe that somehow Sedan Deville himself is.
Very interesting.
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justhuman
I will strongly disagree. Actually Satan is STRONGER than Jehovah. Always according to WT's crap Theology, for the following reasons:
1.Earth's 99.6% population has been misleaded by Satan and as a result of this they will die in Armageddon.
So Satan VS God = 1-0
2.When ever there is a miracle in a Christian Religion, either they are Catholics, Orthodox Church, or any other Protestand movement they are all credited to Satan, and not to God.
So we have Satan VS God = 2-0
3.The Saints that we have in our Churches all mentioned above if they perform a miracle, again it is credited to Satan or to a demon, because according to the WT Saints are powerless, and miracles sized after the first 100 years of the Early Christian Church. So demons are stronger from WT's Saints that they cannot cure a simple cold symptom. On the other hand we see that demons can cure serious desizes like cancer and paralysis.
Satan VS God =3-0
4. Satan is watching everyone of us to test and to put us in temptation, while Jehovah He is sitting on Hi's throne billions of years of light away from Earth, and He is kind of traped in the universe that He created, because he cannot be omniscient and His present it is only in a place called Heaven. That means Satan has more power over humans instead of God who cannot be anywere exept heaven!
Satan VS God =4-0
5. Again according to WT Crap Theology the True Christianity lasted 150 years!!! So we have a great apostasy after that and Satan has conquered the Early Church and turn it to Apostate Christendom. And Jesus couldn't do nothing to guard the Church although He said that the gates of Hell will not overcome to His Church,that with Hi's blood died for. So he allowed apostates to corrupt the Church for 1800 years!!!After that He desided to bring back the "original teachings" by chosing a guy 17 years old, that has no apostolic succesion, no Theological backround, didn't even know to read Greek the language that the Gospel was spread thought out the world, with suspicious occultic past to restore the true "faith".
Satan VS God =5-0
So WT's God is a powerless Spiritual Entity, a relic of the past that always has been defeated by Satan. Are we worshiping the wrong guy?
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justhuman
Also: According to WT crap theology Adam lost eternal life and someone else had to come and die for his place. And they quote life for a life...good. Also they are saying that a ransom has to paid, and they give the example of a kidnapper who holds a hostage, and the ransom(Jesus life) can save the captive hostage.
Now we got some really taugh questions:
1. To whom did God payed the ransom? To Himself? If it is paid to Himself then God is the kidnapper
2. If it was to the Devil that the ransom was paid, then Devil forced God to give Jesus as a ransom, and that means Devil is stronger from the God.....
Devil vs God= 6-0
Are we in the wrong side?