Great story, Mr Flipper. It just goes to show that a 2 year old can be reasoned with. It just takes a little more time, effort, and creativity than a spanking.
Cog
5thGeneration spanked his awesome pre-teen girls and is proud of it.
by nvrgnbk 65 Replies latest jw friends
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SixofNine
A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than just spanking. (:wink wink, nudge nudge:) It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his leadership. A Christian marriage embodies true romance and a Christian man a true hero.
Six- real American hero class
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Little Drummer Boy
Great story, Mr Flipper. It just goes to show that a 2 year old can be reasoned with. It just takes a little more time, effort, and creativity than a spanking.
Oh bullshit.
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cognizant dissident
Bullshit
Are you saying that Mr. Flipper's story is a lie LDB? Or are you saying it does not effectively demonstrate that a two year old can be reasoned with and is capable of understanding?
Cog
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bikerchic
I apologize if I was being judgmental. That wasn't my intent.
I didn't take you as judgemental at all nvr and I enjoyed what you have to say on the subject. I always learn here that's what I love about JWD the posters make me think and change which is good, yeah it's all good!
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hillary_step
Am I the only person here who spanked their parents? ;)
HS
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Little Drummer Boy
Bullshit
Are you saying that Mr. Flipper's story is a lie LDB? Or are you saying it does not effectively demonstrate that a two year old can be reasoned with and is capable of understanding?
Cog
I believe his story, obviously. I have no reason not to. Your flawed logic is what I call bullshit on. ALL kids are different. ALL kids respond to different forms of discipline. This is NOT rocket science.
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sweetstuff
I think spanking is an easy way out for many parents.
Now, I have to say, I think that is a totally unfair statement. Many people who have spanked their kids, have done so a handful of times in their child's life, and only when it was something very dangerous or serious. Beating your child and spanking them are not the same thing.
Every child is different as well, some can be talked to, reasoned with, and time outs work well, some it does not work so well. To suggest that its an "easy" way out or laziness on the part of the parents, I disagree with. If it is chronic, yes. If it is done with anger and not truly out of discipline, yes. But I do not think when any parent swats the bum of their 3 year old for touching a hot stove, its done because they are just not interested in explaining to their child or too lazy to time them out.
Even if you never spank your child, doesn't mean that they won't find something you did wrong and need to forgive you for. I have spanked my kids, very rarely, yet I know darn well I spend alot more quality time with my children than some parents who have never spanked once. Discipline is only one part of parenting. I am not condoning spanking, but I also dont' see a occasional swat on the bum as abusive or something the child is going to hold against their parents later in life. I also know people who were never ever spanked once, who have some serious issues against their parents, didn't get enough love, cuddles, attention, etc.
For all the stories of well behaved, never spanked kids, I can think of more than a few who could use a good swat on the butt, who don't respect their parents, are poorly behaved and who laugh in their parents faces, at a time out. It depends alot on the child's personality, IMO. Yes, I use time outs, I have barely spanked my kids ever, I don't think its the most effective parenting tool by far. When my youngest was 3 I could have timed her out and held her hands, till I was blue in the face, to try and teach her to not stick anything in a socket, and trust me, I did. But one swat on her bum and she never did it again. (She is very strong willed, stubborn. No idea where she gets it from.)
Yes, abuse is wrong, yes, hitting your child in rage is wrong, belting them is wrong, I think we can all agree on that. But, then we have a generation of children coming up now, who verbally abuse their parents, who have absolutely no fear of reprecussions, who probably could have used a spanking or two when they were little. I know I am going to caught crap for this, but that's my honest opinion. Politically as incorrect as it gets these days. Everytime I hear some child tell their mom or dad to bleep, insert curse word here, off....I think, who's the parent and who is the child here? And yes, If my child ever said that to me, I would talk to them first, explain why it was wrong, give them a time out or take something away, as punishment, but if they did it again...yup, I would smack their butt. If you won't learn it thru your ears, you'll learn it thru your rear.
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nvrgnbk
I think spanking is an easy way out for many parents.
If it doesn't apply to you, you shouldn't take it personally, sweetstuff.
I said many parents.
That has been my observation.
I have not commented on your parenting style as I am totally unfamiliar with it and not interested in passing judgment on it.
Spanking is learned behavior.
If no one ever introduced the concept to us, would it naturally occur to us to smack a child on its buttocks?
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sweetstuff
If no one ever introduced the concept to us, would it naturally occur to us to smack a child on its buttocks?
I don't know, but you see it in the animal kingdom all the time, so perhaps, it would have occured naturally in some form, perhaps not.
I didn't take it personally, was just commenting on my disagreement with the statement, I used my own experience as a reference.