Mr. Flipper's Son Gets 3rd response from Witness Mother - Your Advice ?

by flipper 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • flipper
    flipper

    O.K. So my son after sending the 2nd letter you guys read the other day , the next day gets this response from his mother. You will notice in reading the 1st paragraph of this response , I believe the first half of the 1st paragraph is a quote from some Watchtower publications or something to prove God's existence , then after in the second paragraph she gets down and dirty trying to " convert " my son back. So here it is, see what you think , and would love to hear your takes and advice.

    E-Mail # 3

    " In recent centuries God's name has been used in many other places besides the Bible. For example , the Latin words ," May Jehovah God be praised ", are found on gold coins that were minted for many years in Switzerland . More than 60 different so-called " Jehovah " coins are known from the time of Christian the fourth, King of Denmark, and Norway who ruled from 1588 to 1648. The die engravers represented His name by the 4 Hebrew letters translated in English as JHVH or YHWH . During 150 years after the end of the 30 years war , Gods name continued to be struck on coins, medals, and tokens . Such coinage was minted in Austria, France, Mexico, and Russia. But by the early 1800's it was less and less . " (End quote) One of my return visits has a wonderful Bible from 1800 , it's big, he got it when in Europe. He turned to Psalm 83: 18 and it said, ( You know, blah, blah, blah whose name is Jehovah ) Jehovah means causes to become , whatever Jehovah has to do he will . Just like when he saved the Israelite nation through the Red Sea, yes they have found " gold hub caps " , at the same place.

    I will check on what you said, I had heard about this young girl also. ( She means the girl my son mentioned in his previous e-mail who was a child abuse victim ) I can feel that you do not like to have any boundaries, you don't want to answer to anyone it sounds like . When you were very little , do you remember your first talk ? Yes, the ten commandments, " honor your father and mother, you must not murder, neither committ adultery, steal, testify falsely, ( and on and on ) . You see Jehovah loves people and wanted to take care of these ones so He talked to Moses, and used him to tell His people , how they should live. Before that He used Enoch, all through history Jehovah has used people , here on earth , etc. Is not God's laws good for us ? Look what happens when the world has gone crazy . I want to know I can trust the one I love. And the love that is worldwide in God's organization . No other religion can go in all countries and be studying the same information on Sundays worldwide in the Watchtower magazine . Not even the U.N. can top that , only because it is God ran ( the organization ). I had to leave earlier, a sister needed help on her talk. I will talk to you later , I have service all day tomorrow, Love Mom.

    So, there you have it. Her 3rd response. So what if anything do you think my son should write back in return to this ? Any suggestions ? You can see from this, her thoughts roam all over the map with not much continuity. It seems to me she was basically trying to convince him of God's name, and show him God is still using an organization today. So I look forward to your comments as my son told me he is interested in all your takes on what or how he might respond to this. So I welcome all your responses ! Thanks for reading this, Peace out to all, Mr. Flipper

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    How come it's always a "you want to rebel"? My Mom used the same mentality. It couldn't possibly be your intentions are good. This always upsets me.

  • flipper
    flipper

    BURGER TIME- Yes. I agree. It is so weird that they assume we are rebelling and don't pay attention to the content of what my son wrote. Once again, the influence of the " cult mind control " on his mother. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Just tell him to DA and get it over with.

    Seriously, after reading that mindless tripe it's what I was thinking.

    Open Mind

  • flipper
    flipper

    OPEN MIND- Yes, it was certainly mindless alright ! I hope he just keeps fading so his grandparents , my parents, will still talk with him. He has already told me his mom keeps asking for his address 2 hours away where he is going to school, but he is smart enoght to know she only wants it so she can send the local elders there to bug him. So, he won't give it to her ! Smart young man

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    Not to offend anyone, but... the first paragraph -

    Those are NOT 'Jehovah' coins... they are more accurately described as 'YHWH' coins. How does this person make the leap to calling them 'Jehovah' coins?

    Plus - even today, we have God on the coins - 'In God We Trust". I'm not too impressed.

    I'll comment on the other paragraphs later...

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    I think if I was your son I would mention a few truths, the Pyrimids, Beth Serim,But then again he sounds like he has it together. by NOT giving his address .
    She is just repeating what she has had planted in her mind. Poor woman. I was there I KNOW! she sounds like I did

  • momzcrazy
    momzcrazy

    Mr Flipper, I hate to say it, but all your son is going to get from mom is regurgitated Watchtower info. I say he emails her back and says," Mom, I love you. No matter what you believe. You will always be important in my life. I'm glad you are my mother."

    momz

  • flipper
    flipper

    JIM- Hey dude. You aren't offending anybody here. I mean the person who wrote it was my ex-wife ! lol Come on now ! I know that much of what she writes is cult controlled garbage. It's not news to me ! No offense taken ! I agree with you

  • changeling
    changeling

    Does he want a relashionship with his mom? If so, ground rules need to be set. Perhaps "no talk of religion "should be one of them. Love and respect on both sides could be emphasized as well.

    If he respectfully and honestly asks for this she'd be a fool not to accept.

    changeling (always looking for a win-win situation)

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