poor Tyrone, : I think I stated that I for many years have had the same reasoning. All I want answered from you Farkel, is what are the remains of a boat doing at 6000 ft. plus. Your saying this is a hoax. Prove it Ah, my friend! The one making the assertion has the burden of proof. I have fifty million invisible purple and orange unicorns telling me God's will. You are saying this is a hoax? Prove it. Ok , What lies over 6000 ft in the Mountains, matches the exact dimensions of Noah's Ark, Is made of wood, where no wood exists, and is shaped like a boat that you can actually see, and has ancient anchor stones lieing behind it. Wait a minute I know, it must be the ancient remains of a train. Thats called tangible evidence. When marine divers discover wrecks, they accumulate evidence based on what was known of the ship they are searching for and low and behold they can actually identify it even after years of submersion and damage. Did you think they would find a pristine boat with a shiny brass plaque that reads Noah's ark? We have an anceint document that describes this boat called the Ark and roughly where it landed. I don't know of any other ships that have sailed in the mountains. Do you? I think we can be fairly sure that the boat dicovered in 1985 was the Titanic. Nobody questions that. The evidence is their. What evidence do you want. How many boats do you know, that end up on mountain tops. :are based on facts which later change, to again alter our perceptions. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FACTS don't change. Facts are facts. Perceptions change, but facts are always and will always be facts. Not so amigo. When you were a witness what you were taught was absolutes. They were facts to you. Reality had no bearing on it. You would have taught these ideologies to anyone. Truth is our truth, until it is proven false. Witnesses would make the excuse, " Yes, that was so back then, but we've received new light. Perceptions change when facts change. It used to be a fact that the earth was flat. We can say it isn't so now, but those were the facts based on what they knew at the time. Now that we have accumulated more knowledge our perceptions change. If what you are saying is true, that facts are always facts, then our perceptions would be the same as they were 3000 years ago. I'm not talking about universal truth,but how the individual uses what they know,till a better way of assessing matters is embraced. You see,anything considered factual is relative. It is relative to what you beleive to be true,based on what you know. Those kinds of things keep changing as they should. I imagine that facts will remain facts when all things are known to us. : When you close your mind to others with rudeness or an attitude of superioity you don't just have an opinion you are opinionated! Ad hominem and a pretty lame one at that. Well, I must admit you are the type of person that I must control my rage with. This attack however is based on a rudeness I have seen towards others that is unwarranted like " A Christian." It really had nothing to do with the topic. I will dispense the same degree of respect that I feel I am getting. ( Ha, Ha Ha! : The theory of evolution has been changing too,but its not quite ready for the public yet. Do you know anything about science and the scientific definition of "theory?" Thought not. Theory is the HIGHEST level of certainty in science, and once something is elevated from hypothesis to theory it has been elevated to the highest form of scientific acceptance. Why is "just" a "theory" so highly regarded in science? It is because NOTHING can be tested absolutely and under all conditions and in all circumstances. That is simply impossible. A theory is limited by the impossibilty of unlimited testing. A "religion" or "belief" is limited by the impossibility of ANY testing. See the difference? As a matter of fact I do know what you are speaking of. That is why I agree more with science. Only fools deal in absolutes. Science cannot do that, because they are obliged to question everything. I thought you said that facts don't change. If science doesn't deal in absolutes,then their are no facts. : For years it was taught as fact. Now they have dicovered things that just don't add up anymore. Like what? Name something. : It's called forbidden archaeology. LIke what? Name something. They have found sites wherin human remains have been found in caves with earlier humanoid creatures that they say we evolved from. They were co existing. There are tracks of human footprints beside dinosaur tracks that prove humans have been around a lot longer than previously thought. I think now there are more questions than answers. I know you want more proof. What can I say, thats why it's forbidden. It's not that evolution is entirely wrong, it just far more complex than anyone anticipated. : Imagine how stupid all these scientists would look if what they were teaching for the last hundred years was wrong. They can't admit it Imagine how stupid you would look if you couldn't give a single fact to show that the scientists were teaching wrong stuff for the last hundred years. Could YOU admit it? I think I would look more humble than stupid if I admitted I was wrong. Maybe even respected more. Now you, You would look stupid because you would try to justify and teach something that is wrong. I already told you I don't mind being wrong. Why not,thats how you learn. This last statement is a fallacy know as "Reifying". It talks about an abstract thing as if it were fact, and you used it, you delightful, but misguided fool. Reiffying, I like that. Your saying,when I get you to use your imagination to create a scenario or hypothesis that you can't deal with,like puttting yourself in someone elses shoes its a fallacy? Or could it perhaps be that way,just because you do not wish to upset your own reality. It's not a fallacy,it is a suppostion. I used the word imagine. Einstein said imagination is more important than knowlege. Where would science be without it? | 
