Is Your Adulthood Authentic? (page 2)

AWAKE&WATCHING

Arthur - this is a lovely thread. I am marking it to read later.

momscrazy - I absolutely love you, you have a wonderful attitude and way of expressing yourself.

prophecor

Darth Frosty: This was the effect after reading your profile

Dude, Awesome Energy. I never even had a clue that was you.

Honour & Respect

prophecor

If by this you mean they have more than enough in the bank to retire right now.
and their houses and cars are paid for, then I'd say there are more people who will never have it together than those who do.
I think "having it together" is just a mix of good upbringing, determination, good health, opportunities and focus on specific goals.
YC

No Chelbie, my thinking was from the collossal growth that these individuals project, the capacity of thier character as individuals. They seem like "Rock Stars" some of them. Mind you, I know we are all fragile creatures, even the toughest and the bravest of souls have armour, heavy laddened with chinks, but time and experience have done them a world of good. Money is not so much the object, for if the character that's in these individuals was also in me, making money, and enough of it to not just survive, but thrive would be second nature, almost automatic.

VoidEater

Darth: The belief system doesn't allow you to properly go thru the rites of passage of being a man.

I think this is very true. I felt I had never made any milestones, developed into an adult. That took me to a "study" if you will of the part ritual plays in societies, and going through rituals of a variety of cultures gave me an appreciation of what I had missed, and seemed to contribute to my internal sense of self.

momzcrazy

I agree voideater. When we were getting married the elder told my husband he had to earn my respect. I never really felt he had until he left the org and went on the road for work. I have so much respect for him and really think of him as a MAN, not a boy. I think life is harder for men and the org makes it even harder. He went thru all his rites of passage with a wife and two kids, and a wife who was a martyr for the "truth" to boot. I'm glad he stuck it out with me being so horrible to him all those years. I'm working hard to make him glad too!

Thank you A&W, that was kind. I just feel nuts most of the time.

momz

Farkel

: Are you living as a true and authentic adult?

God forbid. The Masters say that if you want to find enlightenment, watch the little children and do what they do. They are outrageous and fearless. They are not concerned with "social acceptance." When they feel like crying, they cry. They don't give a whit if 50 million people are watching them do it. If they want to dance around and act stupid, they do it, again not caring who is watching. Even Jesus told his followers to be like children.

Adults lose that gift that children offer. Your body may get old, but your spirit can always be childlike.

Farkel

dogisgod

The concept of keeping track of time is hard for me. Not the hours but in time reference. It seems that without holidays to have as a reference I have few mileposts that I can refer to. Like being a spectator to other peoples lives. Not ever planning for the future (as it will all end) hasn't been the best training either.

prophecor

...................Jesus told his followers to be like children.
Adults lose that gift that children offer. Your body may get old, but your spirit can always be childlike.
Farkel

The children have it very much togther, I'll have to admit, Farkel. Especially as it relates to how and where we have been raised in the stream of time. We baby boomers had very little reality mirrored to us. It was like living in the age of the Flintstones, literally from 1945 to 1985. They now are light years ahead of us as it relates to knowledge, intellegence.

With the advent of the internet, they will have at thier disposal, almost limitless possibilities. Can you remember, not so long ago, there was no real easy access to modern technology, such as cell phones? Everyone who was even close to being anyone had a pager, (Beeper) Now within less than a twenty year time spanse, everyone has video phones, IPODs and not Walkmans. "Daddy,whats a Walkman?" and motor vehicles that can park themselves without your asisstance.

Then I feel like a child in comparisson to them, as well. Sometimes, I swear they can see me, behind my veneer wall of denial. "Are you really what our parents are? We must do everything in our power possible to never be like you people." The times they are a changeing' but boy, are they changeing with the speed of light years as opposed to stop signs.

Junction-Guy

I agree with DarthFrosty's comment 100%, and maybe that would make a good topic to ponder over.

Anyway, Im 37 and feel like 100. I lost my youth, actually I never really had it, with the exception of a short period back in the early 90's. I feel like I went from childhood to middle age without an adolescence.

primitivegenius

first off im gonna call bulls***............ we look at those people who SEEM TO HAVE IT TOGETHER............ they dont.......... they just seem like it. are they more together than we are......... probably so.

second....... awesome thread.............. there are things that everyone should experience............ and the jws cut it out of you with no pain killer.

YOUR CHILDHOOD....... instead of spending it playing or participateing in fun activities......... they force you to spend the only free day......... in freaking feild circus......... wtf. your forced to grow up fast because of that. when you should be doing child things and acting the fool in a harmless way.......... they make you look and act like an adult.......... then later on when you see throught their lies and bulls*** the first thing you want to do is go back and get ignorant and immature. so you do some of the things you didnt get to......... maybe you do get laid......... or drink to much .......... or smoke/do drugs............

so now the self righteous pricks can say seeeee the dogs returning to his vomit........ when in reality MAYBE we woulda tried some of them and decided they werent for us............. but now were hurt and in turmoil realizeing that the cult we were giving our all to is as evil as any religion they have been condemning all these years.

so when and how do we grow up? i was in my 30s before i did.......... married.......... not long before i was a parent. and the realization i had was............. F&^% that i refuse to do cater to my jw parents bulls***.

they wanted to act the typical jw.......... when i wasnt doing anything wrong.............. just not part of their cult anymore............. F*&% that and F&^% them. if they wanted to quit calling me.......... FINE........... when i called them to tell them that i was gonna be a father.........(im the only child they have that is likely to be able to have children) and they hang up after speaking to me for 5 minutes........... hell it was probably closer to 3.

i realized....... i made my choices......... and somewhere along the line i BECAME this grown ass man.......... i realized that leaving the jws was gonna be hard........... but i couldnt allow myself to remain....... come what may. i also wasnt gonna cater to them and thus be postively reinforceing their bulls*** beleifs that they were right and i was wrong.

THATS when i realized that i make my own damn way, and my decisions were sound and reasonable.

hell i still can act the fool and be childish and immature........ but when it counts i take my stand.

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