Sas-my-Frass, why did they become citizens of the US when they owned the land?
Golf
Lakota Indian tribe is now its own nation!
by skeeter1 33 Replies latest social current
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golf2
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sammielee24
From Wikipedia...
Indian Wars is the name generally used in the United States to describe a series of conflicts between the colonial or federal government and the indigenous peoples. Although the earliest English settlers in what would become the United States often enjoyed peaceful relations with nearby tribes, as early as the Pequot War of 1637, the colonists were taking sides in military rivalries between Indian nations in order to assure colonial security and open further land for settlement. The wars, which ranged from the seventeenth-century (King Philip's War, King William's War, and Queen Anne's War at the opening of the eighteenth century) to the Wounded Knee massacre and "closing" of the American frontier in 1890, generally resulted in the opening of Native American lands to further colonization, the conquest of American Indians and their assimilation, or forced relocation to Indian reservations. Various statistics have been developed concerning the devastations of these wars on both the American and Indian nations. The most reliable figures are derived from collated records of strictly military engagements such as by Gregory Michno which reveal 21,586 dead, wounded, and captured civilians and soldiers for the period of 1850-1890 alone. [1] Other figures are derived from extrapolations of rather cursory and unrelated government accounts such as that by Russell Thornton who calculated that some 45,000 Indians and 19,000 whites were killed. This later rough estimate includes women and children on both sides, since noncombatants were often killed in frontier massacres. [2]
In his book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, amateur historian William M. Osborn sought to tally every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890), and determined that 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans, and 7,193 people died from those perpetrated by Europeans. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded, and prisoners. [3]
What is not disputed is that the savagery from both sides of the war -- the Indians' own methods of brutal warfare and the Americans destructive campaigns-- was such as to be noted in every year in newspapers, historical archives, diplomatic reports and America’s own Declaration of Independence. ("...[He] has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.")
The Indian Wars comprised a series of smaller wars. American Indians, diverse peoples with their own distinct tribal histories, were no more a single people than the Europeans. Living in societies organized in a variety of ways, American Indians usually made decisions about war and peace at the local level, though they sometimes fought as part of formal alliances, such as the Iroquois Confederation, or in temporary confederacies inspired by leaders such as Tecumseh.
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frankiespeakin
The US has veto a UN charter I think about fair treatment of the indigenous peoples, But if the right pressure is put on this the Indians might stand a chance. Any way the Lakota has some very brave warriors even though the weapons are not guns and arrows but legal battles. Hog tie the good old US of A. Oh I pray this works!
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Pistoff
Dansk:
"They also had tribal rivalries and would kill and plunder. As Marmot said, we can see these things through rose-coloured glasses. I think it says something when a native person says that if left to their own devices they would probably have grown to be like Europeans. Remember, our ancients were not too unlike Lakota and other native Americans in their early lifestyle. One cannot stop progress, be it good or bad, and the chances are native Americans would eventually have had their own industrial revolution."
Um, well, let's not get carried away.
The discussion of first nation practicing slavery and war is now and has always been a thinly veiled excuse for the genocide committed by our Christian nation on the original inhabitants of North America.
What the US did to the Indians is no better in the long run than what was perpetrated on the Jews in WWII. They were dispossessed, beaten, raped, robbed, lied to, and victimized by the legal system for hundreds of years.
Are we in position to say what they would have become without being obliterated by Europeans?