My Witness Sister Asks Me For Her Inactive Daughters Phone Number ?

by flipper 23 Replies latest jw friends

  • flipper
    flipper

    CHANGELING- It is a shame that my sister and husband wait until one of their parents die to call my niece, their daughter . As long as I live- I'll never understand that mentality . You and Mr. Changeling ( RV) have a wonderful Christmas too ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

    OTWO- Yes, it was pretty strange seeing my brother in law act one way, and my sister another way. But as you said, it is the cult mentality versus a person letting themselves be a normal human being with normal grieving emotions , like my brother in law did. I am learning more as i read this " Cult Mind Control " book. Very interesting ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • Balsam
    Balsam

    5 years ago after I'd been out of the JW's for a year I got a call from my nephew (sister's son) to tell me my sister had died. My sister was not a JW and she and I were very close. My nephew and his wife and kid are active JW or were back then. It just galled him to have to talk to me because I was disfellowshipped. When I had traveled to Calif to see my sister he would not even come to see her while I was there that 3 days so he would not have to talk to me. The little twit, I'm the one that got him interested in the stupid JW religion. He and his wife had been totally rude. I haven't heard from them since. He was in Bethel for about 2 years back in 1973 I think. He totally turned so self righteous while there, then came home and lived with my parents while he pioneered and with me and my 1st husband for a while when I was a JW. Arrogant is how I see them, I said once to him "where is Jesus love of the fallen in your attitude toward me. Your Mom was a worldly person and showed nothing but love to you and you dismissed her like yesterdays dirty socks and hated her all because you think you are somehow superior because of being a JW." He said nothing. Family or not I won't be bothered with him anymore. He like your sister would have to be the one to make a move.

    Ruth

  • flipper
    flipper

    BALSAM- Ruth I'm so sorry you were treated that way by a " cult mind controlled " nephew . It truly is amazing how arrogant and self righteous they are as you stated . They no more act like christians than Hitler did, really. When my wife and I were about to get married last year , this same sister wrote a mean spirited nasty note to me saying, " Do you know how much you hurt our older parents who are witnesses by your staying away from Jehovah ? " She continued, " I know what it's like to lose a daughter , and mom and dad hurt because of you. " Then I told my sister in a reply letter, " You did not LOSE your daughter . She is still alive, doing well in her education. You let HER go ! She never let you go ! " So, now my sister comes crawling to me wanting her own daughters phone number . Jeez ! I should have told her, " She's your daughter, you should know her phone number ! " But, it isn't in my nature to be that way . Not how I roll ! Besides , maybe I'm teaching my sister that us ex_JW's are really nice, cool, loving people . At least that's how I hope it affects her in time

  • DublDipd
    DublDipd

    Hi Mr. Flipper.

    Your post just hit me so hard. It boggles the mind how the organization messes up families. I know that wording isn't strong enough to express our disgust with the WTB$, but it's the best I can do right now. Merry Christmas to you and yours...

  • Marjorie
    Marjorie

    Mr. Flipper:

    So glad to know that you've found someone who loves only you... And so sorry to hear about your sister...wow...it still boggles the mind to read about this kind of behavior from family members that are still active JWs. It just emphasizes the deceitful nature of the Society -- 'Bringing Families Together'. Are you and Mrs. Flipper planning to attend the funeral services? If so, than perhaps you and your niece can support one another -- that is, if she decides to attend too. At the present time, it seems that your sister will also have on her 'cult personality', if and when she sees her daughter again. So sad...

    Merry Christmas to you and Mrs. Flipper.

  • flipper
    flipper

    DUBLDIPD- Yes. I agree with you . I can't find strong enough words also to describe the hateful things this witness cult does to families ! I can think of some appropriate words, but the mods would lock my thread if I used all of the words ! Merry Christmas ! Thanks.

    MARJORIE- Thanks for the kind words ! I really appreciate it ! It does help having a loving , supportive wife as I do ! I don't think we will be going to the funeral Saturday, as it is about a 10 hour drive , and I didn't know my brother-in-laws mom real well anyway . I hadn't seen her in 27 years. Jeez, I haven't seen my brother-in-law in 11 years or his wife, my sister in 4 years ! So , as you can probably see, we aren't close. However, I talked with my non-witness son, and my wife and we are going to send a sympathy card to my sister and husband, as well as my niece . In the card sent to my sister , I'll quote a scripture and say, " May God comfort you in your time of sorrow ." You know , just to acknowledge they believe in a supreme power . This will show them that, hey, we ex-witnesses can be nice too. Imagine that ! Merry Christmas to you Marjorie, and Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    Update here : My witness father calls last night, wondering if my sister had called me to get my nieces phone number ? I said yes , and mentioned my sister was rude, stayed on the phone like one minute with me, but my brother-in-law and I talked for 10 minutes. My dad said, " Could we have your nieces phone number too ? " I said , " Sure ". He asked, " Do you have her address handy ? " I thought quickly on my feet, " Uh, no I don't have her address, just her phone number . " Of course I was lying. But I did not want my dad to give my nieces mom her address, then the elders would probably be contacted to " go see how she is doing ! " That is the LAST thing her and her boyfriend need in their lives. I felt the phone number was sufficient info. Do you folks agree with me on this one ? Just curious

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Sure, hopefully the number is unlisted and they can't do a reverse search on it to get her address.

    Josie

  • Gordy
    Gordy

    When I disassociated in 2001 my JW wife and two JW daughters stopped having contact with me. We were separated at the time, still are, because of the Elders interference.

    Anyway two years, February 2005, ago my oldest son, also DA'd, was taken into hospital with appendicitis, and had to have operation. His non-JW wife and I were there. When he went down for the op, we went to waiting room. Sitting there was my wife! She said "Hello, How are you?" to me. That was it, after 4 years of no contact. She then proceeded to speak to my sons wife as if they were old friends, yet it was probably only the second time they had met. Anyway my sons op went ok. His wife offered to take my wife home. Never once during the journey did my wife say a word to me. When we got to the house its was "Bye" and she was out of the car and gone.

    Next day sons wife and I in hospital cafe. My wife arrives. She says "Hi" to sons wife. Not a word to me, in fact sits so she has her back turned to me. Chats away to sons wife. I could see my sons wife looking at me as if to say "Whats going on?" and looked embarrassed. My son had given her some idea about JW's and shunning etc. But she now she was seeing it first hand. Later she said she would not have believed if she hadn't seen it happen.

    That also was the last time I saw my wife we have had no contact since then.

  • flipper
    flipper

    MRS. JONES- Yes, I agree with you, I hope also there is no way they can check her address. Probably not.

    GORDY- I am so sorry you went through this shunning junk. It hurts and it is a hateful thing for people to do, especially in the face of a family emergency . I feel empathy for you, been there done that , I am there doing that too. Peace bro, Mr. Flipper

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