That's true they can research so many things on the internet. I wonder if that's why so many more JW's are leaving. My sister who was involved until just a couple years ago was telling me how there are so many JW's leaving these days. When I was growing up we were not allowed to even look at anything that might contradict what they tought. Now it's so easy to just search the internet. I don't believe a lot of what I read on the internet though. But it gives a person an open mind. I had serious doubts when I was a teenager about the validity of the JW's even without the internet.
Hi I'm new.
by Micky4321 41 Replies latest jw friends
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KenseiShimonzu
Hi Mickey,welcome to the board,i'll send you a friend request in a minute when i log on-KenShi
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Bryan
Nice to have you here.
Bryan
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jaguarbass
Welcome to the board. I havent been to a meeting since 81, I hope they still cant disfelloship me.
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Micky4321
Thank you Bryan
So do any of you celebrate the holidays? I did for 9 years about trying to fit in with my husbands family. I think the JW thing still is messing with my head it always felt weird doing it. Just not natural since I was raised against it. The last 3 years I stopped just because it seemed so materialistic. It's been all about give me this give me that. I could see doing it to help people and giving to those less fortunate. I think it should be about helping people.
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Micky4321
I think my situation with being disfellowshipped was different. I did nothing to defend myself. I didn't care if I got disfellowshipped. I really wanted out. I see immediate family members doing the same things I did many years ago and they are not being disfellowshipped but they are doing whatever they can to cover themselves and make sure they don't get shunned by the family.
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KenseiShimonzu
@ jaguarbass
I didn't think they could DF you without a meeting,or proof that you did something,which would be pretty hard to get,if you didn't talk to anyone from there anymore,and didn't do porn
@ Mickey
I personally don't celebrate with trees and stuff,but i also don't feel the need to correct people when the wish me a "merry christmas" anymore,i sings christmas songs,and listen to them when they are on in a store or something..the only one I play is the one by Nat King Cole,but then again,I like most of Nat's stuff and listen to him all winter long anyways.
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Gopher
Hi Micky -- it's nice to see another Minnesotan on the board. There are a few of us who post here.
I was in the Saint Paul area, DF'd in 2000, and am now profoundly non-religious. Some of us ex-JW's have meetups about once a month in Minneapolis.
I was raised in the organization (not "the truth") too, and found holidays a bit awkward at first. But now it's kind of fun - at least to be able to celebrate, but I could take them or leave them.
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Micky4321
lol... well I didn't do porn but I did talk to an elder on the phone just one time. I admitted over the phone what I had done. So apparently that was enough. Seems sort of odd really since I never met with anyone just that one phone call. So I guess you could say I didn't try to defend myself as in being a liar like some do to get out of that. I just told the truth.
Now that I talk to others who knew about the situation apparently the elders who were involved with my situation said they would have never disfellowshipped me if they had known the whole story.
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Gopher
apparently the elders who were involved with my situation said they would have never disfellowshipped me if they had known the whole story.
Same with my disfellowshipping, it was erroneous. Isn't it strange that they say holy spirit helps the elders to make their decisions to disfellowship or not? Really, holy spirit has nothing to do with it. If the elders want you out, you're out.