All this new moon equinox stuff sounds pagan to me - they've got their nerve arguing about a solstice. good grief
2008 Memorial...How will Brooklyn fix this MASSIVE blunder?
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A-Team
considering who came up with the Idea, I wouldn't doubt it for a second.
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5go
My question when coming out of the memorial didn't ever notice there is rarley a full moon out for the event?
Funny for a lunar based event you think they would try to get the moon phase correct.
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changeling
5go, what are you talking about. The moon was full for all 48 Memorials I went to.
changeling
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AnnOMaly
Hmm. This has got me musing away ...
If the assumption is made that Nisan can begin before vernal equinox this year (like it used to do in ancient times), then 2008 Nisan 14 = March 21 after sundown, in which case the Memorial on March 22 would be a day late.
If, according to present day Jewish practice (?), Nisan begins after vernal equinox, then 2008 Nisan 14 = April 20 after sundown in which case JWs would be a month too early. So why do the Jews start on sundown April 19? Hmm. They must count it from conjunction now, instead of crescent visibility ...
I'll get my coat ...
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5go
5go, what are you talking about. The moon was full for all 48 Memorials I went to.
Sorry, but one recently wasn't, if was off. I was on my way out of one and I noticed it wasn't a full moon it was a slight phase but noticeable either before, or after a full moon. It helped me start asking questions to myself about their hold to the right dates for anything.
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AK - Jeff
They will just reference Johannes Greber's New Testament Source for Passover Dating............
Jeff
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truthsetsonefree
They screwed something else...thank goodness for JWD!!!
Isaac
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
*** rs p. 269 par. 2 Memorial (Lord’s Evening Meal) ***
Jehovah’s Witnesses observe the Memorial after sundown on Nisan 14, according to the reckoning of the Jewish calendar that was common in the first century. The Jewish day begins at sundown and extends until the following sundown. So Jesus died on the same Jewish calendar day that he instituted the Memorial. The beginning of the month of Nisan was the sunset after the new moon nearest the spring equinox became visibleinJerusalem. The Memorial date is 14 days thereafter. (Thus the date for the Memorial may not coincide with that of the Passover kept by modern-day Jews. Why not? The start of their calendar months is set to coincide with the astronomical new moon, not the visible new moon over Jerusalem, which may come 18 to 30 hours later. Also, most Jews today keep the Passover on Nisan 15, not on the 14th as did Jesus in harmony with what was stated in the Mosaic Law.)
Here's an explanation from the Reasoning book. They've thrown in enough disclaimers that mere mortals can't possibly argue with them. That FDS is soooooo smart.
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Fisherman
i remmember that last year or the year before that, the memorial did not correspond with Nisan 14 passover. Jews had the passover on one date jws had passover sveral days after. The wts said that memeorial does not commemorate the passover I vaguely remmember.
