The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

by Maddie 66 Replies latest jw friends

  • erandir
    erandir

    I used to go to a few churches that did the speaking in tongues thing. As previous posters have said, it is from getting into an emotional hysteria and then blurting out nonsense improv-style.

    I attended a revival once, and the guest preacher told me directly to just clear my mind and say whatever comes into it...just let the "spirit" flow. I just blurted out a bunch of syllables of who knows what and he praised the lord and went on to the next fool in line.

    Once, I heard a lady speaking in tongues and mixing some spanish phrases in here and there. No one seemed the wiser.

    Back in the first century, didn't speaking in tongues have a purpose? Such as preaching to those of a different language when you didn't know their language? What is the purpose today? Has that purpose changed? If so, what is the biblical basis for the change? It seems that speaking in a tongue that no one in that congregation can understand serves no purpose...even if it is immediately "interpretted."

    I'm pretty much convinced that it is all fake, and for a lot of people it is a way to get some attention and feel special.

  • heathen
    heathen

    I think it may be possible tho the apostle Paul put it as a lesser gift of spirit compared to prophesy. It does say you need a translator and it is to be interpreted otherwise pointless , it was for unbelievers so you could communicate even tho the first century christians were believers and could do it.These pentacostal churches treat it like a joke and are obvious frauds. I hate religion. People can do very good things with time and money beside make those charlatans rich.

  • PEC
    PEC
    I'm pretty much convinced that it is all fake, and for a lot of people it is a way to get some attention and feel special.

    You hit the nail right on the head. Fake, Fake, Fake. My granddaughter, said Scooby dooby dooby doo and her parents, brought the wackos home with them to try and expel the demons from her, it didn't work. She is a atheist now, thank god.

    Philip

  • heathen
    heathen

    "said Scooby dooby dooby doo ", LMAO demonz of hannah barberra be gone ...........

  • Maddie
    Maddie

    PEC - I agree that some are fakes (maybe most), but does that mean they all are?

    HEATHEN - If it is truly a gift from God then and abused to trick people for money then it is unforgiveable, just like the WT is a wicked deception.

    GETOVERIT - Perhaps your friend was convinced it was wrong by the people in her new church. Very sad if she truly experienced something beautiful.

    ERANDIR - I haven't actually seen it first hand so I may think the same thing if I do

  • Maddie
    Maddie

    MUST OBEY - Would Jesus allow deception by demons? An interesting question because I don't think he would, unless the gifts aren't still available today and its the demons pretending they are.

    DINAH - Your friend felt at peace after the experience so it seems do many others.

    SNOOZY - As I said to MUST OBEY above - that is the biggest problem

    CHOOSING LIFE - Perhaps it was psychological if he had used LSD in the past. Maybe if he hadn't then the experience would of been pleasant - just a thought

    HMIKE - It would really be a turn-off for me if I was made to feel less "spiritual" - too much like being a JW and having the feeling of being judged.

    I attend a Pentecostal church, and I speak in tongues. I was never prayed for, nor was I in an excited emotional or mental state when this event happened about six months after the Lord saw fit to save me. I have only spoken in tongues during my personal prayer time, and it usually occurs when I am in deep intercession for people XJW4EVR - You sound very sincere and thats how I imagine it should be when it does happen.
  • serotonin_wraith
    serotonin_wraith

    You forgot someone.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi,
    There seem to be a range of views from total disbelief people who are familiar with the gift. For those who are interested in the gift then have a read. I think it is pretty self explanatory but if you have questions then please ask.

    1 Corinthians 14 (New International Version)

    Gifts of Prophecy and Tongues

    1Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. 2For anyone who speaks in a tongue[a] does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.[b] 3But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. 4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,[c] but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues,[d] unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified.
    6Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me. 12So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church.

    13For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says. 14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind. 16If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand[e] say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? 17You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified.

    18I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.

    20Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21In the Law it is written:
    "Through men of strange tongues
    and through the lips of foreigners
    I will speak to this people,
    but even then they will not listen to me,"[f] says the Lord.

    22Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers. 23So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand[g] or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand[h]comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, 25and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!"

    Orderly Worship

    26What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church. 27If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God.

    Regards,
    Stephen

  • hmike
    hmike

    HMIKE - It would really be a turn-off for me if I was made to feel less "spiritual" - too much like being a JW and having the feeling of being judged.

    Maddie,

    Please be aware that there is a wide range of understanding of tongues in the church. On one extreme, there are those who not only do not believe it is meant for today, but that it is even of the devil. On the other extreme are those who insist that speaking in tongues is a necessary indication of salvation. It's sad when this divides the church instead of helping promote Christ's kingdom. That's why some groups simply leave it alone—and miss the blessings.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi hmike,
    Just to clarify, the bible says speaking in tongues is a gift but it not necessary for salvation. Please see these verses for tongues and salvation.

    1 Corinthians 12 (New International Version)

    Spiritual Gifts

    1Now about spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be ignorant. 2You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.
    4There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men.

    7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.

    Romans 10:9
    That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

    Acts 4
    It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11He is " 'the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone.[a]'[b] 12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

    Regards,
    Stephen

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