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I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...
by cognac 216 Replies latest jw experiences
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cognac
Wow, I think I'm actually going to be sick...
I sit here crying to your responses about Matt.24:14. (preaching work)... Just made me think about what you said, "what good news"... that's a sickening thought...
My mom used to tell me that everyone who wasn't a jw would die at armagheddon... she used to tell me that my schoolmates (I think I was in the 1st grade) would come up to me screaming at me mad at me because I didn't do everything that I could to warn them and now they were going to die because I didn't warn them and beg and plead with them to come into the truth... For years this scared me to death.
When I was 4 or 5 years old I used to beg my grandmother to die because she wasn't a jw and wouldn't become one and I thought that since armagheddon was right around the corner and she would die. I loved her very much and thought the only way for her to get there was to die... I thought, ok, I won't see her for a little bit but then I will get to be with her forever...
This is the way I grew up. Looking at all these people thinking that they would all die... It's like, I just can't even breathe right now...
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Abandoned
I used to beg my grandmother to die because she wasn't a jw and wouldn't become one and I thought that since armagheddon was right around the corner and she would die. I loved her very much and thought the only way for her to get there was to die...
Yep, none of my family paid any attention to what I was trying to teach them. I remember hoping my mom and dad would somehow die and get a resurrection rather than be destroyed. I hate that. I hate that they did that to me. They turned my love for my parents into something sick.
I'm so glad I'm out of that crap. I wish you well in your journey too.
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Gopher
This is the way I grew up. Looking at all these people thinking that they would all die
Cognac, I felt that way growing up too. It made me scared to be friendly with the other kids, thinking that they would die soon if they didn't become Witnesses, or else that they were a bad influence.
If there is a loving God, he surely wouldn't massacre 99.9% of them at an Armageddon. It would almost be like he were admitting failure in this project of having people on earth. And it would be far worse than any massacre Satan has been involved in.
We were taught an unloving doctrine, and thought it was the only truth.
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changeling
Take it easy. It's a lot to take in all at once.
You seem very smart and perceptive, you'll make sense of it all and you will know what to do.
changeling
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Vinny
Hello Cognac!
Below is a reply I gave last month on another website. The situation though is very similar to your own today. Blood was the main issue for me as well. I was a very active and caring elder, my daughter a Regular Pioneer, wife very active etc etc.
http://p196.ezboard.com/Letter-of-disassociation/fexjehovahswitnessforumfrm14.showMessage?topicID=237.topic
Hope you find what you are searching for Cognac. You can still worship God without the WT Society pulling all the strings. I can assure you of this.
All the best,
Vinny
(PS- The Matt 24:14 issue is simple. Before the JW's ever EXISTED, Christianity was already GLOBAL. Also, which "Kingdom" do the JW's preach? You mean the one they said was established in 1879? Or the one that was to bring an end to the world in 1914, then 1915, 1925, 1975, before the generation born in 1914 dies off, before the turn of the century etc etc. You mean THAT Kingdom preached by the JW's??)
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(Incidentally he also disagrees with the JW blood policy).
So this is how I rached the decision that I did. It was not easy. It is not for everybody. But in my own case, I believe it was the right thing to do.
I lost business partners, we lost business employees, I have been wrongly labeled and am shunned by all JW's today. But I am also free from this organization and these teachings that I no longer support.
Most JW's have no idea about all the false predictions, doctrinal flip-flops, medical disasters and other embarrassing mistakes throughout their entire existence.
So when you (or any JW) says, that it takes nerve for me to be offended because of what's happened to me, since I chose my course, you are only lying to yourselves.
NOBODY CHOOSES THIS!!!
But because very few ever realize these consequences, or know about all the past WTS mistakes, until (((AFTER))) they become JW's, the consequences of being labeled, shunned and other significant losses become the reality by default, through no choice of their own. -
oompa
as far as your first questions.......me too....fourth gen jw........................oompa
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changeling
Now, if you REALLY want your mind blown, check this out... It's the issue that crumbled my faith in the WT:
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jwfacts
Take time to consider everything and let your emotions settle. It is important not to talk to Witnesses about what you are thinking at the moment. It does not matter what you say to a Witness, most will not acknowledge any of your opinions as relevant, but will go straight to the elders. The elders will ask if you still believe Jehovah directs the Governing Body, and if can not tell them yes, you will be disfellowshipped.
A regular pioneer friend of mine was doing research about 607 for a Bible Study and found out that Jerusalem was actually destroyed in 587. She was very confused and told her closest friends, who went straight to the elders. Within one month she was disfellowshipped.
Over time you may decide you want to keep going to meetings. Alternatively you may choose to fade, or disassociate. It will take time to work out the best thing to do with a clear head, and generally the best option for you and your family is for you to say very little in the meantime.
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cognac
Vinny ~ Wow, i'm going to be going over your response a lot for the next few days.. Christianity is already worldwide... huh!
Oopma ~ What 1st questions are you referring to? Sorry, I couldn't figure it out...
wow.... I feel overwhelmed but more relieved then anything... I guess so many things I just put in the back of my mind just came flooding out and I feel 100 pounds lighter... But, as all of these things are coming out of me, I just keep thinking... What the heck just happened? This is my entire life, my entire being, everything that I have ever known, just about my every waking breath and thought, my entire world since the very day that I was borne...