active and happy jw (page 9)

scumgrief

Thats what I was going to say alliwannadoislive. Any person appointed over a congregation in any religion is supposed to protect and warn his congregation. Thats their job. Wheather it's immoral movies, or degrading music, of course they don't want anyone in the congregation viewing such things.

And Follow the leader is a sweat album

ShaunaC: I'm in my mid-twenties, been married for 3 years, and was raised as a JW. As far as specific subjects I would like to refute or discuss, I'll be sticking by head in certain topics. Thanks for the welcome!

(I really hate it when you type an entire message and try to post only to be informed that you forgot to enter your password, in which case you have to try to remember what you wrote! ARRRRGGGHH!)
scum

NameWithheld

For every ten years that this system goes on to allow that many more to 'hear the good news' that many more are born. It's a never ending process. So don't try and sell that magic potion to me. I see that snake oil for what it is. God's given every one a chance huh? Tell that to the Indians, the Chinese, and others. There are almost NO JWs there. Too bad, out of luck.

Think everyone in the USA has 'heard the good news'? Think again, typical of a JW to think that they are SO well know, SO big. Fact is the majority of the USA has NO IDEA what JWs think and beleive, and a Saturday knock on the door and a hurried up pushing of the latest WT/Asleep rags isn't cutting it. If this is god's best effort to educate the world he's doing a piss poor job. He's going to kill you cause you didn't listen too 2 people stumble through a 30 second presentation (and who are silently wishing the McDonalds break would hurry up and come). Just cause JWs are the center of your world (and many x-JWs too) doesn't mean the average person has ANY idea about them. This 'good news' of the JWs that god will soon kill you, your babies, and your little dog too is NOT being preached like you think it is.

Think about it. What if, just suppose that god were using the mormans, not the JWs. You just politely asked the last batch of fresh cut young mormon boys to leave last week. That was your one shot at life dude. Too bad, god gave you a chance didn't he?

And as for Noah's flood, play with the numbers. No way him and all the required animals were on an ark/boat of that size for over a year and had enough food, nor is there any way Noah and his handful of merry men could have possible had time in the day to feed and scoop the crap out of the boat. They would have drown in crap and piss. It's not possible. So you can keep that little 'proof' too.

And here I thought the Romans were the ones who killed the Jew's in Jerusalem. My bad. I guess it was the Jew's fault for being Jewish and living in their capital city.

Oh, YoYo boy, when you are stepping over my retrid, putrid, stanky, bird picked carcass try not to vomit directly on me please, thanks!

Bgurltryal

hey scum...highlight the text you wrote and press 'ctrl' & 'c' at teh same time. Then if you input your password wrong again go back and press 'ctrl' & 'v' together and it will magically apear!:) Copy and paste is a great invention!

NameWithheld

DIM: Being part of a religion, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, does not guarantee that you will be saved. This is on an individual basis, but to be saved we must be doing God's will as the Bible says. Being one of Jehovah's Witnesses helps me keep focus on doing God's will and I keep fed spiritually. I want to be with Jehovah's people and I want to see the vindication of his beautiful name.

Perfect example of cognitive dissidence. He can't justify saying YES, only JWs will be saved (even though that is what he's taught and must believe for his own sanity), but if he says NO, more than JWs will be saved, then he has just admitted to himself that maybe he doesn't need to BE a JW after all. And that's not possible. Trapped in a hard place there are you?

scumgrief

Name, if we thought that everyone in the USA or the world had heard the "good news" and made their decision, then we wouldn't still be preaching. That is why we believe this system is still here. To give everyone a chance.

Every single week out in the ministry, we meet and talk to people who never talked to us before. And as much as you may not want to admit it, people DO talk to us every week. Not everyone brushes us off. And as long as that is the case, progress is being made.

And since it was God who had Noah build the ark and hide in it, I'm sure he would intervene and make sure they weren't "drowning in crap and piss".

DIM

YYM -

again, your logic is flawed. If you can't say for certain that only Jehovah's Witnesses will be saved, than there is NO POINT in being one. organized religion is not mentioned in the bible. in fact, the word "organization" does not appear once.

NameWithheld

But you didn't address the issue. For all those MANY people (2-3 perhaps?) you are talking to, how many more are born every day. You are fighting a loosing battle. The population grows faster than you can preach to it. So to say that every man woman and child would have a fair shake at being taught is ludicrous. And as to admitting whether or not people actually 'talk' to you or not, remember I was a JW for many years too, have known hundreds of JWs, and know what FS is like in the USA (having been in FS in most parts of the USA). If you can get into one or 2 real conversations a week you are lucky.

And I still take offence that a loving god would be giving people a 'chance' by whether or not they listened to a couple of (what they perceive to be) wackos selling mags at their door. When a salesman comes to your door don't try and tell me you listen to them, you get rid of them as fast as possible (a major reason there is so little door to door sales/preaching that happens - it's terribly ineffective). Do you engage the Mormons in discussion and learn from them when they come to your door? What if they are 'it'? How would you know for sure? Those people believe just as much, and can prove just as well as you, that they are the one true religion.

As for the ark, you need to seriously do the math on that one. All the animals we have on the earth today, 2 each of them would never fit on a boat of that size. Much less the food required to feed them for a year. And as for god intervening and doing something miraculous to feed/clean up the mess, why would he do that after requiring Noah go thru all that work to build the ark in the first place. If he could shrink the animals, magically produce food, feed and clean up for Noah and crew, then why bother with the ark at all? He could have just done it himself. Or why not have a big enough ark built. Or if was shrinking the animals, why build such a big ark? It's a nice fairy tale though.

scumgrief

Name, all I can say is that its in God's hands as to how everyone will have a fair share. If the preaching work was a loosing battle, then Jesus wouldn't have done it, and he wouldn't have instructed his followers to do it. If we went out every DAY, and never talked to a single person, we would keep on trying, because Jesus asked us to, and God wants us to.

When Jesus preached door to door, most people thought he was a wacko too.

scum

NameWithheld

And all I can say is that you can pretend that you are doing the same preaching that Jesus and co did, but the JW preaching is not the same. The message is totally different, the methods are different. Door to door was but a small part of their way of life, nor was it revolving around preaching about any one 'organization'. Last I checked Jesus wasn't turning in a 'measure of spirituality' card, AKA monthly FS report.

nelly136

if you tick the 'Check here to remember logon details' it'll
save you putting in your password each time youre here,
married? cool does that mean we'll be meeting mrs sg too?
nelly

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