Anyone ever disfellowshipped for gluttony?

by gaiagirl 27 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • dawg
    dawg

    I love you guys, only a JW can possibly understand how damn funny this thread is....

    We had a brother, call him Brother B... he was really a big dude, with a big heart... I loved that man, he was funny, bright and nice as hell... but he was without a doubt a fat ass... and it wasn't a glandular problem. I sat next to him at dinner one time and he ate as much as everyone else seated, there were 4 there....

    When he died it took like 10 people to pall bear... he was huge... so, if he has something in his head that makes him eat, is that any differnet than a drunk who's genetically more prone to alcohalism?

    Or a fornicator, I've heard there's people addicted to sex, I keep hoping a lady with this problem moves in next door but hasn't happened yet.

    Yet this "sin" gets a pass.... what gives?

  • seawolf
    seawolf

    At my hall if they were to DF people for gluttony the entire hall would be a ghost town. I guess the CO could give talks to the tumbleweeds.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I have seen two big fat tubs of lard at the Kingdumb Hell I used to go to. (I am here defining a big fat tub of lard as someone that has trouble fitting in a standard chair and needs special seats while in the Kingdumb Hell, yet does not need a wheelchair). As for gluttony, I cannot tell if it was eating too much or not getting enough exercise that contributed to the problem.

    Now, I know that eating too little can trigger obesity, strange as it may seem. You see, when you cut way back on calories, your metabolism slows down. Anyone who has ever lost weight on a diet only to quickly gain it back, and then some, on a regular diet, will attest to that fact. In fact, some people that are very thin actually eat more than fat people and stay thin because they eat so much that their metabolism is extremely high. Such people can correct the problem by going on any strict diet for a few days, losing weight, and then going back to normal. However, I warn anyone that tries it that it can be too effective, and if you gain back too much weight, it is quite difficult to re-lose it.

    What I would need to see is a pattern where the person eats so much that it interferes with normal activity, not due to excessive metabolism (and I would not require such person to take medication to normalize their metabolism). Whether a person is very fat or not is not the issue, since many fat people have tried dieting and have ruined their livers and metabolisms trying to lose weight. But if the person is obviously and blatantly preoccupied with eating all the time, or is blatantly lazy for no good reason, then there is a gluttony or sloth offense (which to me is more stupid than wicked).

    Additionally, I think the organization creates a lot of those tubs of lard. You see, they are urged to pioneer. And, this deprives them of adequate sleep (another factor in obesity: sleep deprivation can make healthy young people function like old diabetics). Add to this the Pioneer Diet of TV dinners for supper and Big Macs or Whoppers for lunch most days, you have the recipe for a weight disaster from toxicity and/or deficiencies in nutrients. And the exercise that most of those pioneers get is of poor quality (you need a steady hour of walking per day to keep a healthy weight, and most of those people get less walking and more door knocking). Throw in a little stress from the boasting sessions, and I think the organization itself is responsible for many people getting fat.

    Which tells me that the Tower finds fault with people for "offenses" that are really none of their business. Hey, if they can ban me from field circus for being fat, I will simply stuff as many pillows underneath a Santa Claus suit and wear that along with some lead weights so I will come up at 500 or 600 pounds. Plus I will show up looking like a ragamuffin. Hopefully, that will be the last time I ever get sent or dragged out in field circus.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    I remember a brother used this defense when he was hauled in by his short hairs for drinking. (Drunkards, gluttony etc) They ignored it and df'd him

  • faundy
    faundy

    Gopher- she was about 20 stone I reckon, I mean she was a big girl but she didn't have to be hauled out of the house by a crane or anything.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    If the food was wearing provocative sauces, or had tempted the glutton in some other way, perhaps by wearing a heavy scent of pasta alle vongole, then the glutton would have probably been privately reproved and not disfellowshipped.

    HS

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin
    Anyone ever disfellowshipped for gluttony?

    I was, I was, but happily it was overturned on appeal.

    I had been lost in the woods for 3 days with nothing to eat, and I was literally starved,( ok just really really hungry). Well I finally found my way out of the woods and made it to my car. While driving home I went past a local greasy spoon hamburger dive that all the JWs go to after service(big mistake), and the smell of burning cow flesh((now I know why Jehover really loved the smell (he has hungry)), mingled with french fries cooked in real animal fat(lard) and ketchup led me like a hook in the nose ring of a bull to slam on my brakes and hang a immediate right into thier parking lot.

    Well the waiter took his sweet time, and when he finally did get to me, need I say more? I orderd three mega burggers smoothered in onions and chili bean sause, three he-man helpings of fries, and 3 super shakes vanila, strawberry, & chocolate. Just about the time I was stuffing myself, in come 4 sisters that are all elders wives and the real backbone of the congregation, and thier elder husbands, I must have been spotted even though I tried to turn my head in order not to be reccognized, it seems these eagle eyes recognized me or my car.

    Well to make a long story short, a rush to judgement soon followed and I was given the boot like a football in the 4th down in 4th quarter with 5 seconds left in a hail mary all or nothing play. On appeal the df'n was overturned much to the chagrin of the 4 elders&thier wives.

    (all untrue but a colorful & plausible story)

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Being seriously overweight is a terrible burden for a lot of very good hearted people. I hope this thread is not taken as meanspirited.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Greg,

    Well said. I too don't care for that type of humor, because it is so hurtful of those that may be suffering with overwieght problems, and demostrates a real lack of empathy for those who are suffering from this health problem.

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    The most gluttonous person I knew was skeletal, with an overactive metabolism. At least that's what she said. We invited her out to a restaurant once and she ate more than our whole family. It turns out she was a poor pioneer sister who had little money for food, so she binged when she got a chance.

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