Jesus was a false prophet....

by dawg 46 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  dawg

  I posted this on another thread, but if you read Matthew 24, we see that Jesus was indeed a false prophet... he doesn't give the day or hour of the end times but he says that this generation will not pass away until all these things occur... and what generation was he talking about? He was talking to his diciples and telling them you will see this and that and thus and such....Especially take a gander at Matt 24: 33-36...Jesus thought he was living in the last days and that he would come down from a cloud from the heavens...that stars would fall from the sky, and the like... just read it and tell me what you think.

  I wonder if Jesus was an Essene, they thought they were living in the end of time, in fact they predicted a Messiah would come during their days...
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  brinjen

  I've often wondered about that myself. My theory? The world changes constantly. With these changes comes a new set of problems. That's a constant throughout history. Throughout all that there are always those who say the world is declining as a result of these changes. Really though, is the world that much worse? We're only here for 80 or so years if we're lucky, how much of the big picture do we really get to see during this time?

  As long as the world has been in existence, there have been those predicting the end of it. Maybe that's the reason?

  (Sorry if that makes no sense, it's late here and I'm half asleep)
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  nvrgnbk

  Interesting thoughts, dawg and brinjen.

  I highly recommend Apocalypses: Prophecies, Cults, and Millenial Beliefs Through the Ages.
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  quietlyleaving

  Jesus may just have been trying to help people not to be so superstitious and afraid because earthquakes, wars will happen and they shouldn't go around thinking the end has come or is coming. The sort of advice a modern day psychologist would give.
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  dawg

  It was nothing like that Quietly, he was fortelling the end of the world... show me the scriptual reference that would make you say such a thing?
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  quietlyleaving

  dawg

  It was nothing like that Quietly, he was fortelling the end of the world... show me the scriptual reference that would make you say such a thing?

  I'm imposing my own view on the text.
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  The Last Nephilim

  So Islam is the way to go? Buddhism maybe??
  
  Once again atheism is the logical and reasonable choice...
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  OnTheWayOut

  Dawg, don't be so quick to condemn Jesus. There were tons of messiahs running around
  in his day. He was most likely groomed for the job by manipulative zealots or others from
  a young age. He was chosen because of his Davidic and Aaronic lineage. The highly
  advertised ride into Jerusalem on a Donkey was probably all staged.

  It is likely that Jesus never claimed to be God or second-to-God. The messiah was to be
  a political leader. Those who manipulated him threw him to the wolves when he said to
  "pay back Ceasar's things to Ceasar." They didn't want to be under Roman rules and taxes.
  But if he didn't double-cross them, the Romans would have crossed him anyway.

  He was a pawn in a big game, he looked for the way out. The game went on without him
  after he was sacrificed. His words became bigger-than-life, even if someone had to exaggerate
  them. He could have been a Ray Franz of his time, or a Martin Luther, or perhaps the
  Lee Harvey Oswald. History and corruption turned him into a God.
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  BurnTheShips

  Hi Dawg, I saw your post on the other thread, and was thinking of starting a thread on that subject when I notice you did. Interesting subject.

  The things Jesus was referring to that would not pass away during that generation related to the judgement of Jerusalem, which did happen within that generation, a biblical generation being about 40 years, or the word geneas could refer to the contemporaries, those alive at that time. Either way it did not pass away before the destruction of the Temple in 70AD. Some Christians (Preterists) view the entire passage as having been fulfilled in 70AD, others (partial preterists) see it as having a partial and lesser fulfillment in 70AD, and a greater, final one at the end of the age. I am of the second group personally.

  Burn
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  Deputy Dog

  dawg

  Not so fast, the word "generation" in that passage could mean race or nation.