For a lifesaving work, isn't 3% growth something to be ashamed of? Is 6 million (versus the whole world population) VERY tiny? If these are people's LIVES on the line, there should be MUCH higher growth in order to be excited. Yet they constantly rave about the 6 million number, the miserable 3% growth. Just shows how people will believe what they are told.
Jehovah's Witnesses Are NOT Conscientious & They Don't Really Care!
by minimus 28 Replies latest jw friends
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seek2find
What amazes me is how much emphasis is put on "going out in service", but how much time is actually spent at McDonald's or the local donut shop, or running personal errands, or driving 5 miles to that call that's always not at home. But at the end of the day they feel happy and satisfied that they "went out in service today" and attempt to make others feel bad because they didn't. How many of the reported hours are spent in unproductive activity? seek2find
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minimus
EXACTLY!
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reneeisorym
I know what you mean. I was always confused as a JW at why people didn't try harder to get the message out. Their methods are to keep people busy and slaving but not much effort is put into converting.
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jaguarbass
No one cares about anyone or anything except themselves. Some things people do cause their brains to make dopamine the feel good transmiter. When you figure out what you have to do to make dopamine you will do more of that activity.
For some people its taking cocaine or smoking marijunna. For others its going to church or selling cheap magizines to save the world.
Its the dopamine. Thats why they dont want to make heroin legal, because everyone will be so doped( dopamined up) that they wont do much else.
Probablly not very many on this board know about or believe in dopamine. It makes life to basic and crude.
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rimfiredancing
I know about the dopamine addiction of western society. Are you familiar with the Reciprocality project/Progstone? Alan Carter has a lot to say about dopamine and its connection with people's inability to think clearly or critically, as well as its ability to inhibit the 'big picture'/connection mechanism in thinking.
If you are familiar with it, both my partner and I are natural mappers, he's fully immune, I'm partial (due to too many years having my head bashed by societal memes). I'm moving to the rainforest to regain my immunity. :) -
VoidEater
Rim: Have yet to find (in my brief search) Alan Carter writings that are concise. Can you recommend a (non-rambling) summation? Some of what he alludes to is interesting but presupposes a context - and is jargon-heavy. He seems to be speaking along the lines of perception being guided by presupposition? Perhaps an offshoot of EST/Scientology, with a biochemical foundation to articulate it?
Jaguar:
Its the dopamine...
I would disagree that the biochemical nature of emotions and satisfaction make life "crude", it's just the mechanical underpinnings of our emotional experience (e.g., Molecules of Emotion by Pert). That experience and cognition occur as physical processes makes it more mysterious to me, not less.
I would also disagree that making heroin legal would turn everyone into Reefer Madness-like drug fiends (if that is what you might be suggesting). There are plenty of places in the world where drugs are legal and have a place in culture. There are addicts everywhere, but this doesn't seem to be a function of legality (except the "mysteriousness" of the forbidden may drive too many to experimentation without the balance of knowledge).
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LouBelle
I totally agree - 95% of them do not have that true brotherly love they so sickly portray in their illustrations. The poor little elderly are NOT looked after and cared for, the only time they every see their brothers and sisters is when they are taken to the meetings.
However in saying that - we had a fantastic elder that actually did try make a difference. We would have dinners for the elderly, dinners for the pioneers, we'd (only about 8 out of the congregation) really try.
Once you're converted, unless you're with the IN crowd pretty much get forgotten.
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YoursChelbie
Actions always speak louder than words. I used to know a very poor sister who was hearing impaired and also needed glasses desperately. In all the years I went to that Kdumhell, no one ever tended to her needs. As a young mother busy with my new born I felt bad for her that she lived in poverty and couldn't even collect disability because no one would giver her a ride to the Doctor's! Really deplorable how she was ignored. I drove her on several occasions to her appointments and finally she got the paperwork signed by the doctor to qualify for the disability checks. As soon as her checks came in the mail a horrible "pioneer sister" sold her some used washer and dryer at new appliance prices. That poor lady spent her entire disability check on stuff she never got to really use. After a few years of being on disability she was diagnosed with cancer and passed away. If the "elders" really cared for her she should have gotten her disability checks years earlier and ...I won't go on because it is so sad how some people get treated.
Bottom line is the JW's teach the Governments are under "Satan's Control" yada.. yada ....yada..... but as soon as someone is poor or disabled, the elders and others are the first to say "go apply for food stamps or disability" How they actually get to the place they don't care. Do they follow up to see that the sick and elderly get the help they need?? Not always. Don't count on it.
YC