The Design of Life

by Deputy Dog 49 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • serotonin_wraith
    serotonin_wraith

    Would the north star be north of the north pole?

    No. There is no north, south, west or east in space. Technically, the North pole on earth could be what we call the South pole. But we just had to decide what was up and what was down when we started making maps.

    This sort of fits "string theory"and requires an infinite number of universes or what they call a multi-verse in which not only is everything possible, but likely . From what I read, this is the popular view today in quantum physics. If you can wrap you mind around that, believing in God seems quite sane to me.

    Well I can see this universe, I know it exists. Just imagine another one. Simple. Keep imagining even more. Simple.

    It's like seeing a bubble, then imagining millions of bubbles in the bath. Once you know one exists, it's easy to imagine many of the same thing.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Well I can see this universe, I know it exists. Just imagine another one. Simple. Keep imagining even more. Simple.

    It's like seeing a bubble, then imagining millions of bubbles in the bath. Once you know one exists, it's easy to imagine many of the same thing.

    You have a great imagination Sero.

    Burn

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    Deputy Dog:

    It's not a rule, it's a statement of fact; evolution requires time the same as aging requires time.

    Wouldn't you call it natural law?

    If you like. It's still just a statement of the way things are.

    Would the north star be north of the north pole?

    No. "North" only has meaning on the two-dimensional surface of the earth. If you went from the North Pole towards Polaris, your latitude would still be the same (90° North, as far north as you can go); only your altitude would change.

    This sort of fits "string theory"and requires an infinite number of universes or what they call a multi-verse in which not only is everything possible, but likely . From what I read, this is the popular view today in quantum physics. If you can wrap you mind around that, believing in God seems quite sane to me

    If there are enough universes, then not only is everything likely, but everything is inevitable. However, some universes are more likely than others. While we may live in an unlikely universe, namely one where the conditions are suitable for life to evolve, it is obvious after a little thought that anybody capable of pondering these questions must live in such a universe. 99.999999% or more of universes may contain nothing but space and gas, but necessarily we live in one of the remaining ones. Now while it is possible that the particular universe we live in also has some extremely unlikely properties, it's, well, extremely unlikely. Only in a vanishingly small number of possible universes will an omnipotent entity have come into existence with no precursors, so in the absence of conclusive evidence, it's most reasonable to assume that there are no such entities in our particular corner of the universe.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    Sorry guys

    Would the north star be north of the north pole?

    I asked that with tongue in cheek. I guess I should have used a

    derek

    Only in a vanishingly small number of possible universes will an omnipotent entity have come into existence with no precursors, so in the absence of conclusive evidence, it's most reasonable to assume that there are no such entities in our particular corner of the universe.

    If the universe is in the multi-verse God could be anywhere. Who said the multi-verse has corners?

    If the multi-verse is eternal why can't God live there eternally?

  • serotonin_wraith
    serotonin_wraith

    If there is some being with god-like qualities, it's still existing within a universe. It would still have come about through natural processes. A supernatural being outside every universe is the kind you are suggesting, and that would mean a complex thing just being there with no beginning.

  • inkling
    inkling
    If the 'designer' existed before time (the big bang), why would that be a problem?

    If I can change the rules to win an an argument, why bother arguing?

    [inkling]

  • inkling
    inkling
    What's the purpose of inventing something that requires more explanation than what it was invented to explain?

    Becuase it feels warm and fuzzy?

    [inkling]

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    s_w

    If there is some being with god-like qualities, it's still existing within a universe. It would still have come about through natural processes. A supernatural being outside every universe is the kind you are suggesting, and that would mean a complex thing just being there with no beginning.

    Well, a multi-verse as suggested by "string theory", which has many more dimensions (some say 11, I'm not sure how they come up with these numbers) than we are aware of in this single universe, would be a very complex place with no beginning, wouldn't you agree?

  • serotonin_wraith
    serotonin_wraith
    Well, a multi-verse as suggested by "string theory ", which has many more dimensions (some say 11, I'm not sure how they come up with these numbers) than we are aware of in this single universe, would be a very complex place with no beginning, wouldn't you agree?

    I don't know that a god exists. I do know that a universe exists. No beginning? Sure. Complex? In it's current form, our universe is complex, but it had very simple beginnings, and it could be that way for every universe in the muti-verse (if it is a muti-verse). Each part became complex naturally.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    s_w

    Complex? In it's current form, our universe is complex, but it had very simple beginnings, and it could be that way for every universe in the muti-verse (if it is a muti-verse). Each part became complex naturally.

    By it's very nature in a multi-verse (an infinite number of universes) that likely probably is not true.

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