Part 2: OMG - I did it - I told my Mom and Dad how I feel... (page 2)

Gopher

Sorry you're going through this pressure just because you expressed your thoughts.

the UN library is open to anyone, to which I countered why the had they become members, and she said she simply cant believe this is true... I told her about the letter which was off the UN website (thanks guys) and she did not want to see it! She also mentioned the pedo situation and if people are found to be guilty then they will be DF'd - but the responsibility is not on the elders to report it, that is the responsibility of the victim or their parenst.

Here's what the JW's do when faced with facts about their organization:

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

I don't think it's wimpy. Maybe you need to just play it so you can have them in your life. (Remember, they won't stop preaching to you--every response you give will put them closer to cutting you off.) But, they won't live forever, although they still think they will; you can still be the good child and be an evil internet-surfing apostate with us. It's all good.

Younglove1999

I don't think you're being wimpy at all!

I'm in the same boat and basically have a "don't ask-don't tell" policy with my mom right now.

In the beginning, I was hoping our discussions would be respectful and that my mom would be logical about my feelings, but she just isn't. So I give up for now-

I know at some point when my baby daughter is older and we start doing holidays/birthdays, we'll have to truly make our stand (what an ironic statement! LOL ), but for now- it's just not drama we can handle right now

((hugs))

sacolton

I know how you feel. My wife was born into the JW religion and refuses to acknowledge or reason with anything

I can show her that would challenge her thinking.

False prophecies? She doesn't care. Just mistakes.

Hypocrisy? She doesn't care. They are human.

You have to understand that there are people who don't want to think for themselves or they can't after being

told over and over and over constantly through the years what the "truth" is and the punishment if you should

leave. They are trapped! They will feel lost without the WTBTS telling them what to say, think and do.

I think the big challenge would be if you were to severe all ties with the WTBTS and DA yourself ASAP and

that will get your parents thinking. They are just want things to stay as they are without any changes.

dust

her and my dad care about me too much and they dont want to have to lose all contact with me.

So they don't want to lose all contact with you, because they care. Some not very pleasant questions come to my mind:

Do they care so much that they would be willing to give their lives for you? (Most parents would say yes.)

Or is this greatest kind of love (John 15:13) appropriate only if there is a certain chance that life on a Paradise earth will be granted anyway? Like, they'll give their lives if they can get their lives back afterwards.

If you leave, you'll be dead in their eyes. But far worse, they won't even be allowed to hold your hand the little time that you have left. If they do hold your hand, that would be (as they see it) to sign their own death sentence. Would they be willing to do that for you, if the only purpose would be to show you their love (John 15:13)? Or is love simply not worth it?

Poztate

I guess that by saying "don't close the door", my mom was saying that if I were to DA myself, they will shun me completely so lets keep things as they are. I don't really to DA myself anyway since I haven't been to a meeting in so long, I don't really consider myself a witness anyway!

Your Mother countered by denial and told you to shut up (don't discuss) the issues. This happens to a lot of doubters. If you want to maintain a family relationship keep religion out of the mix. It is a balancing act and hard to follow. Good Luck...

JWdaughter

Does your mom believe the entire association with the UN is a lie by apostates, or simply that she doesn't believe they did anything wrong? This:
http://www.randytv.com/secret/wt11012001.jpg

shows the letter the WT wrote the the Branch offices. It is not from the UN. Might be interesting to get some of the earlier versions of their excuses-er-explanations.

Shelly

dawg

I think its unreasonable of anyone to think they can "share" their religion and you can't equally "share" the reasons you know its bull. I think I'd tell my parents the subject is off limits, that you at least equally disagree with her decisions about God, and if she can't listen to you and your thoughts then you don't have to listen to hers. Next time she starts to preach, tell her you don't want to listen to her apostasy towards God.

Hortensia

saying, "Mom I don't want to hear it" and "Mom, there's no point in discussing it because I am not going to change my opinion" both helped with my mother. My mother did choose her JW friends over family in some ways, but I just ignored that and we maintained a don't ask - don't tell relationship that worked pretty well.

LouBelle

I will just try and keep my mouth shut for now

Boo - this gets more and more difficult. Your mom will even treat any "old light" or anything that proves your point as apostasy - I had a watchtower proving that the organisation said they were "mother" and Jehovah the "father" . That they had put themselves as the prophet and spokesperson of Jehovah - My gran and aunt refused to read it.

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