by RFlores 30 Replies latest jw experiences
Welcome R.Flores and Busta! I'm a newbie here too
This is a great place to vent all those feelings of frustration and pain that we've had to keep inside for so long, either because we were too scared to say them out loud in front of other JWs or because non-JWs didn't quite understand what all the fuss was about!
Everyone here has been through something similar and we can all related to such experiences and encourage and comfort one another because of it. Look forward to more of your posts!
Mel
Welcome to the forum RFlores and Busta. I hope you find peace about once being in the grips of that religion - this really is an awesome "community" We may all have different opinions and views but feel free to air them.
Welcome R. Flores and Busta.
In regard to the paragraph structure, ----- welllllll.
If you have been around as long as many of us have you will know that it is not
you but the program you use to write with.
In time you will figure this out. And ....... be perfect like the rest of us.
Just kidding R. Flores and Busta.
Hang in there.
Thanks
Welcome, Busta!
Got news for you two dudes... that insecure feelings you both have, we all have them. When people pick on you they're doing nothing more than transferring their own feelings of insecurity onto you. They feel insecure too and that's their way of dealing with it.
As for your feelings about the WT organization, I used to get all chocked up thinking that Satan was infiltrating my mind because I had severe doubts which led to depression and guilt. The same depression you both mentioned. Its a mind screw the JW religion puts on you, they drill you from day one that crossing them makes you evil... well, let me tell you, those bastards are the most evil people I've ever known. When you take command over them you'll feel power which makes the guilt go away.
I have one last thing to say about your ages, never let a man put you down because of that; I live around very young people that help me everyday get out of a jam that my old ass can't get out of without them... I have life experiences that you young men don't have, but guess what? You have life experiences that you can share with me and I can learn from...the young fellow next door comes over and hangs with me all the time, usually helps me out with problems with my computer. He knows more about it than I do, I need his crazy self. Good young fellow, and he brings hot young ladies over too... nice for us old fellows to look at...LOL!
Good luck to you both, if you need me, drop a line, If I need you I'll do the same.
Welcome R. Flores
I am new here and also have just left the Organization with my husband and youngest son. I have a son who is 20 and one that is 16 still in the organization. I am hoping that in time they will pull away and realize that they can still serve Jehovah without this corrupt organization. It gives me hope when I see the way you wised up. I hope my sons will, soon, before JW girlfriends and wives complicate matters.
You will get such a lot of support here. Its so helpful to have others see what you see. The falseness of the WTS.
All the best xxx Strawberry Cake
I definitely call it abuse when a child is forced to go to church (and especially one that is so wretched for children as the witless religion) against their will. And, for one to be spanked and threatened for fidgeting, it is nothing short of atrocity.
Here is my take on the proper rule--and there is only this as proper rules:
(1) Thou shalt not initiateth the use of force. This includes dragging children (or adults, for that matter) to the Kingdumb Hell against their will or forcing them to agree against their better judgment. It also includes spanking them (or beating them) for minor infractions like fidgeting, or for infractions that are created by the structure of the meetings. Most temper tantrums have a frustrated drive to learn and/or explore as the underlying source, and are created when children have to sit still at boasting sessions for hours at a time. And, it includes dragging children out in field circus instead of play time.
(2) Thou shalt not threateneth the use of initiatory force. This includes that "Just wait until we get home" that is so common in Kingdumb Hells. It also includes being told that, unless they behave and do everything they are supposed to, that they are going to die at Armageddon. Much of it is blackmail.
(3) Thou shalt not initiateth fraud. This includes that "Pioneer or Die" crap that spoils so many vacations. It also includes lying to the child to tell them that God requires all that activity when such is not even scriptural (and, when rationally analyzed, there might well not even be a God to answer to after all that. Bogus bans on worldly association, holidays, after school activity, and going to college for some specious argument could well fit into this. And, it includes going out and telling people just the paradise part and drawing them in, only to be hit with all the rules.
Any other rules are totally needless.
a heart felt welcome to both of you.
Have been a memeber here for just over a year, and finf myself a reader... more that a poster.
But you'll find like mided people here, we've all been through the same tings to a more or less degree.
peace XX Shell
Welcome to RFlores and Busta! We're glad you're here, the life that you'll lead from here on will be your own choosing, your own goals and thinking, it's all good!
Welcome RFlores!
I'd like to start off by giving you a quote from one of my personal heroes: Thomas Jefferson.
You've got a long journey ahead of you. We all wish you well.
