Does anyone get scared?

by aud8 45 Replies latest jw experiences

  • You Know
    You Know
    how much more will the Creator care for you, as we are his children.

    What a laugh. You are ridiculous in the extreme. Most apostates would spit in Jehovah's face if they could get close enough to him. Apostates are described in Scripture as "accursed children," and as going in the "path of Cain," who is called a son of the Devil. / You Know

  • ianao
    ianao

    You Know "Coughed":

    Most apostates would spit in Jehovah's face if they could get close enough to him.
    What about the ones that would not? I take it you have no comment in this regard?
  • You Know
    You Know
    Wow You Know! You completely dodged ashitaka's question! Amazing! Why can't you just say these words: "I don't
    know", or "Yes" (which is what you probably believe anyway)?

    I answered his question, apparently not the way you think I should, but then again, Jesus never answered his enemies they way they thought he should either. Deal with it! / You Know

  • DIM
    DIM

    comparing yourself to Jesus now, eh?

    i'm sick and tired of hearing things from uptight-short-sighted-narrow minded hypocritics. all i want is the truth just gimme some truth - John Lennon

  • ianao
    ianao

    And with all the blabber You Know, you've still managed to avoid the question.

    ROTFLMAO.

    Sure, I will "Deal with it", no problem. At least one of us would have "dealt" with something.

    BTW You Know, answering a yes or no question with 'blah blah blah blah blah blah' does not answer the question.

    (Just so you will know in the future).

  • wannahelp
    wannahelp

    Hi You Know,

    You said:

    "Basically, apostates are in the position that they are in because they don't fear God. That's the problem. They imagine that there will be no day of accounting from the hand of Jehovah. We know better. / You Know "

    I'm so happy that YOU have been granted such authority from God as to pass judgement on the apostates before God does..

    BTW: I've talked to apostates that certainly DO believe that a day of accounting will take place, and they feel that they would rather stand on their own merits and conscience than on the merits and man-made rules of the GB:

    Let's examine the record, shall we...

    Here is a list of stuff we know about the JW sect:

    1.) They have Prophecied in Jeohvah's name multiple times, and it didn't come true

    2.) Have changed their doctrine MANY times as a result of "new light". Note these doctrines were based on scripture.. I.E. The GB read the scriptures wrong, and then changed the interpretations later.
    If this new light comes from God himself, then they are claiming to be inspired, and check Deut 18:18-22 for false prophet. If they are claiming to be men re-anylizing the scriptures, then they are just men, and JW's are just following men (See Pharisee).

    3.) Have been caught with their hands in the "cookie Jar", or should we say the scarlet colored beast. When caught, they resign and tell their members that the only reason they joined in the first place was a 'library' card.. Can the R&F JW join the YMCA because they want to use the pool? If not, then isn't that hypocrisy?

    4.) Have double standards, look at how they treated military cards. Doesn't Jehovah hate uneven scales?

    5.) Have lied on numerous occasions to their own followers to 'cover up' their transgressions. I thought Christians were always supposed to tell the truth to fellow Christians.

    6.) Claim that they abstain from blood, but that didn't occur for the first 50 or so years of their existence, and Jesus (according to them) accepted them as his representitve here on earth. Intersting that Jesus didn't see anything so dastardly wrong with blood that he 'gave' them the keys to his earthly possesions.

    7.) Claim that they stay neutral in war, yet participated in war until 1939 or so. And during that time that they believed war was ok, Jesus choose them to be his representative and look over his earthly things, Interesting that Jesus didn't see anything so dastardly wrong with this that he 'gave' them the keys to his earthly possesions.

    8.) Claim that only they have interpreted the bible the way they do, but do not admit that a great deal of their teachings come from the Adventist church.. (So much for originality, huh)

    9.) Even though they claim to abstain from all blood, now fractions of fractions of blood is ok.. Unless god himself gave that 'revelation' to the GB, it's men playing with the interpretation of what they think blood is.. If that is the case, and they are now claiming to interpret what blood is, and they just changed that interpretation (not via divine intervention, but just men changing their minds), doesn't that also mean that the GB is now blood guilty for all those years they didn't allow the components to be taken, and resulted in the death's of many JW's?

    And yet, through all of this (Much of which the average JW doesn't know because the GB does a good job of covering it up to the R&F) you still claim rightousness and are still able to "humbly" judge others.

    It amazes me how "humble" you are.. The old saying "Oh lord it's hard to be humble when you are perfect in every way" comes to mind.. Even though you'll tell me that you aren't perfect, you obviously feel "more perfect" than the apostates (or anyone else not a JW for that matter)..

    If you don't claim to be perfect, then how do you claim that you can judge in rightousness? And if you do not claim to judge in rightousness, then how the hell do you make statements like the one you just did? Furthermore, you believe that all apostates will be permanetly cut-off. How can you make that claim, unless you are perfect like Jesus was? Are you like Jesus? Is any JW, including any of the F&DS perfect? If not, how do you justify those claims????

    I am very impressed You Know... Let's hope that God is equally impressed when your time comes!!!

    - Wannahelp

  • Kent
    Kent

    Yes, the current events scares me. The prices on beer is sky-rocketing, and I fear I have to accept drinking less beer and Whisky.

    I really hope this will turn to the better - but I guess that's not what you are thinking of. I can tell you a secret. Mr. Arman Geddon is late as usual, and I'd say you can relax for a few hundred years extra :)

    Yachyd Da

    Kent

    I need the new KM's as they come! Please send me scans!

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  • Englishman
    Englishman
    What a laugh. You are ridiculous in the extreme. Most apostates would spit in Jehovah's face if they could get close enough to him.

    That's absurd. The only reason that people don't like the name Jehovah is because of its association with Jehovah's witnesses. If people don't like the name or associate it with a vengeful sort of god, then that is your own fault.

    Englishman.

    Nostalgia isn't what it used to be....

  • AMarie
    AMarie

    You Know:

    Ianao raised a good question. What about the apostates who wouldn't "spit" in Jehovah's face? There are many people here that love god and want to worship him but are no longer Witnesses. What about those ones?

    To quote you, "Hitler no doubt killed thousands of sweet old Jewish ladies. Stalin starved millions of Ukranian peasants. Why do you assume that YOU are so special? Jehovah's pre-recorded judgments are that this system meet up with it's day of justice. You imagine that God is going to personally kill people he doen't like. That's not what the judgment day is all about. The judgment day is when this system fails and leaves people with only two alternatives. One will lead to life and the other to death.Each person will be required to make a choice under the most trying of circumstances. Apostates mock and ridicule the very notion that this system could implode upon itself. On the other hand, I have repeated shown from this world's own sources, that the system is very vulnerable to collapse and that in fact that such a calamitous crash is inevitable. Jehovah offers a place of protection to those who are willing to look to him. What more do you think God should do? / You Know"

    So in the great tribulation, this system falls, and we are all left with two alternatives. Do you believe that it is possible for non-JWs to make the right choice? Even if they don't mock the notion that we are in the last days, looking at today's events?

  • wannahelp
    wannahelp

    Hi Amarie,

    You said:

    "So in the great tribulation, this system falls, and we are all left with two alternatives. Do you believe that it is possible for non-JWs to make the right choice? Even if they don't mock the notion that we are in the last days, looking at today's events?"

    What makes you think that the JW's will make the right choice? Or have already made the right choice? Maybe they are on a road to destruction too?

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