I am Albinus, and I train with the short sword and buckler. I will kick your ass.
Shortsword and Buckler eh! I have never met them but they are good names for gladiators. Ass kicking is easy - it is the lions you have to watch out for.
Could it happen here?
by BurnTheShips 65 Replies latest jw friends
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THE GLADIATOR
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hillary_step
Burn,
You show yourself to be an idiot on more occasions than is dignified. You are obviously a bright person but are unable to stop your emotions controlling your intellectual judgement. Your critical thinking skills too need help.
You were wrong regarding the annhilation of the Aztec and are twisting both my words and my point to suit your agenda. What is more, you know this, and no appeal to huge images placed on your posts will underlie the fact that you are plain wrong.
Check out the Smithsonian site if you wish to know just how thorough the annihilation of the Aztec people was. I bold the word people, because it does not matter how many indigenous tribes made up this nation they are described as one empire by those who know what hey are talking about. Think of the UK, it is made up of divers groups, Welsh, Scottish, Cornish, Anglos Saxon, Pict, Celtic. These all live under the umbrella of 'the English', do they not. Use your common sense man and stop making a fool of yourself.
This is a starting point for you to become better informed on the subject. Another way is to travel to the area and study its history as have I.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/aztec.html
Cortez and his allies destroyed the Aztec nation, and its people. That some remnants of tribes, whose DNA can be traced back to the area survived does NOT mean that the Aztec people were not annihilated. To all intents and purpose, the nation of people ceased to exist.
Grow up man!
HS
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BurnTheShips
You show yourself to be an idiot on more occasions than is dignified. You are obviously a bright person but are unable to stop your emotions controlling your intellectual judgement. Your critical thinking skills too need help.
hehe. Funny
You were wrong regarding the annhilation of the Aztec and are twisting both my words and my point to suit your agenda. What is more, you know this, and no appeal to huge images placed on your posts will underlie the fact that you are plain wrong.
Juke and jive all you want, you said the Aztecs were completely annihilated. Annihilation. Complete. That is incorrect.
Check out the Smithsonian site if you wish to know just how thorough the annihilation of the Aztec people was. I bold the word people, because it does not matter how many indigenous tribes made up this nation they are described as one empire by those who know what hey are talking about. Think of the UK, it is made up of divers groups, Welsh, Scottish, Cornish, Anglos Saxon, Pict, Celtic. These all live under the umbrella of 'the English', do they not. Use your common sense man and stop making a fool of yourself
The empire ceased. The people. were not. completely. annihilated.
This is a starting point for you to become better informed on the subject. Another way is to travel to the area and study its history as have I.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/aztec.html
Please stop patronizing me. I've been to Mexico. Several times. I live a bit closer than you do, on the shore of the Gulf of Mexico. It is my backyard. Less than 3 hours away by plane. I've been to the ruins. The Mayan ones too. Oh I've been to the Smithsonian museums in D.C. as well. I may not be as worldly as you are, but you've got at least a couple of decades head start. Your article states that a political entity was annihilated. Not a people. The Irish Celts are still Celts today, even if the Ui Neill no longer rule, and despite centuries of English oppression.
Cortez and his allies destroyed the Aztec nation, and its people. That some remnants of tribes, whose DNA can be traced back to the area survived does NOT mean that the Aztec people were not annihilated.
You said completely annihilated. Since you seem to need a history lesson (my turn to patronize), History.com:
Modern Aztecs live in the vicinity of Mexico City and number well over 1 million. They are the largest aboriginal group in Mexico. These people are mainly illiterate subsistence farmers whose ties to the modern Mexican culture are slim. They retain the Aztec-Nahua language; their religion is a blend of Aztec and Roman Catholicism
http://www.history.com/encyclopedia.do?vendorId=FWNE.fw..az186600.a#FWNE.fw..az186600.a
And that does not count the millions that did assimilate into the larger Hispanicized Mexican culture.
They were not completey annihilated.
To all intents and purpose, the nation of people ceased to exist.
No, and trying to parse and engage in semantic wordplay makes you look foolish HS. Man up and admit you were wrong!
The Basilica of the Virgin of Guadalupe on 12/12 her feast day, built on Tepeyac Hill, where the temple of the goddess Tonantzin was, who was also a virgin.
BurnTheShips
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VoidEater
Could it happen? I think while we are engaged in debate on how where religion should fit into our society, we are fairly safe.
Burn says: The point of this thread is this, if enough people hold a desire, they can act in concert to effect it, even violently. A lot of rhetoric I hear from the atheist side sounds violent, strident, and militant to my ears. This is a fair discussion. A lot of theists sound violent also, I hardly need to mention examples.
This fits in with Hamilcarr: “The divisions of Christianity are no longer Protestant verses Catholic but conservative verses liberal.” – Belief.net
The reason I don't think the US is in any immediate danger of banning religion - much less trying to ban belief - is that while "atheists" may have engaged in strident langauge, it is the conservative (to the point of nutso - hey, it happens in any group) theists are the ones we see *acting* violently.
Do we have atheists blowing up federal buildings? Stockpiling weapons in Texas? Shooting "abortion doctors"? and - here I know I cross the line - beating their children at the behest of their beliefs ("God said don't spare the Rod" vs. "Darwin said I must make you strong")?
Not that I've seen. These are done by the fringe theists - ACTING violently.
When we start seeing atheists shooting planned parenthood picketers, or making fertilizer bombs to blow up St. Patrick's Cathedral, then I might start worrying about the coming suppression of religion in America.
It would take destructive revolutionary actions to put religion on the run in America. So far, the rhetoric is at best even on both sides; the violent activities have come from the theistic side of things.
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hillary_step
Burn,
Argue with history all you want. I suspect that you enjoy beating your head against walls of ignorance.
You obviously did not even bother reading the Smithsonian link I posted, which seems to be typical of your modus. Eighty percent bluster, twenty percent thought. Let me quote what they state about the anihilation of the Aztec and their Empire:
Then, in February 1519, eleven ships led by Spanish explorer Hernán Cortés appeared off the coast of the Yucatán Peninsula. By August 1521, Cortés and his Indian allies had conquered Tenochtitlan. The glorious city lay in ruins. The annihilation was so thorough that today it is difficult to fully picture the sophistication, opulence and sheer grandeur of the Aztec Empire.
Now, if you wish to play games and suggest that an Empire can experience thorough anhiliation and its population remain intact then you are even more muddled in yout thinking than I thought. It is only in recent years that DNA testing has suggested that some Aztec Indians may have survived and if so only a handful compared to the tens of thousands who lived in the cities. Historically, this is merely of superficial interest where this issue is concerned, as to all intent and purpose the Aztec nation was indeed, as evidenced by the Smithsonian, throughly anhiliated by Cortez and his allies.
As for your travels in Mexico. Well, I can only judge from your grasp of Mexican History as to your knowledge. I suspect that your knowledge of its Tequila is much more thorough than your knowledge of its history. ;)
HS
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real one
of course it could. can't you feel it?
