You tell me what I saw, if not Angels then what?

by middleman 101 Replies latest jw friends

  • middleman
    middleman

    Shawn wrote "No. For anybody who knows anything about stretlights you know that they have light sensors on them. Often, when someone's headlight is maladjusted, the light from the headlight causes the streetlight to turn off. No miracle. No mystery. No angels.

    This is a profopundly important story, (and a true one), because it illustrates that people only believe in angels or spirits when they are ignorant of some facts. If this person knew the technical aspects of streetlights, then she would never have even thought about angels when they truned off as she passed by. So... ignorance leads to spiritual explanations. This has been true since the beginning of time."

    I do appreciate your input but I am aware of the fact that officials can and DO manipulate the lights for various reasons. I mean geesh, haven't we all see "Bourne Identity"? No seriously though, my brother-in-law is the head computer GIS manger for the emergency dispatch systems in my home town. I have learned a thing or two on what they're capable of doing for emergency situations.

    I still ask this question aside of the street lights being "manipulated". I can accept that MAYBE the intersection lights were tampered with. My main question that no one has addressed is WHY didn't ANY car in the traffic slow down or even stop but rather drove right past an emergency vehicle that had its lights flashing and sirens going? Lets just say that the cars were in a procession as some have suggested, but what about the cars positioned at my 9:00 that took a right at the intersection? They ignored the emergency lights and sirens also. Surely they weren't in a procession considering that they came from a culd de sac lined with commercial buildings. If your answer is that I'm lying, then I ask what do I have to gain from this? Given the responses I've seen on here, I have more to lose by being called a liar and delusional. I'll ask in a poll, Who here drives right past emergency vehicles that have their lights on and sirens going? If you do, it's a ticket waiting to happen.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Perhaps a better question for Jeffro is where do the forces that hold stars in their places originate? I don't mean the direction or place, I mean, what put them in place in the first place?

    This is one of those little 'trick questions' that 'believers' like to ask.

    It's not a trick question. It's sincere. Where do the forces originate? What or who put them there in the first place? I have very unconventional beliefs, not so different from my scientist dad and his friends. I have never been an antheist. I've been agnostic from time to time, but never ditched my belief in a higher intelligent power completely. Our universe is very complex, incredibly complex and amazing. And it's true that some scientists are atheists, but there are enough of them who believe there is an intelligence behind everything.

    I'm not one who believes you're doomed if you don't believe in a higher power.

  • BreakingAway
    BreakingAway

    Maybe these guys can help me find my car keys...

  • Layla33
    Layla33

    I believe you and I think there are explanations for what happened. Anything is possible and as I believe there are other lives forms in the universe, I believe that things happen all the time that defeat the standard explanations. Some of these things can be explained by basic explanations and some can not...

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    Well I can't explain what it is - but your life was spared and no matter whether spiritual or not.

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    At the risk of stirring the pot even more...

    Shawn10538 - "No. For anybody who knows anything about stretlights you know that they have light sensors on them. Often, when someone's headlight is maladjusted, the light from the headlight causes the streetlight to turn off. No miracle. No mystery. No angels."

    I've seen streetlights up close (and also from a distance). The sensors for determining 'sundown' - which allow the lights to turn on - are located on top of the streetlights - and are aimed at the sky - not the ground. Not only that - the body of the streetlamp tends to 'shield' the sensor from the ground.

    For an auto to be able to hit one of these from the ground... pretty impressive... but not that easy to do. Not even with a high-powered spotlight - aimed straight at it.

    I've seen lightning 'false-trigger' them though. But I believe they have added circuitry to dis-allow this condition (short-burst triggering). Or at least - a good engineer would have thought of this condition and would design his 'sundown sensor' to account for short 'blips' of light - like lightning, by adding delay circuitry to his sensor.

    As for a passing motorist 'triggering' a streetlamp? I find that difficult to believe.

    Freeway streetlamps are set up even different. They come on in groups of lights - which means that there is one sensor that controls a set of 6 to 12 (or whatever) streetlamps.

    No... you are trying to rationalize what this lady told you. Try to find another explanation. The one you came up with is incorrect.

    My .02 worth.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • DJK
    DJK

    You should have gotten out of your car and asked. Mystery solved.

  • middleman
    middleman

    DJK wrote "You should have gotten out of your car and asked. Mystery solved."

    Sorry, I don't make it a habit to get out of my car in a busy intersection to dodge cars in order to ask emergency officials who they are and what are they doing with their lights on. Maybe next time........

  • inkling
    inkling
    I have seen something moved by an invisible, intelligent being.

    Did I miss this conversation? I would be sincerely interested in knowing the details.

    [inkling]

  • middleman
    middleman

    Me 2.........you just never know.

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