I'm sorry I missed the call....but granny, if you had something to say....don't apologize for it.....
I feel very sorry
by mouthy 38 Replies latest jw friends
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FlyingHighNow
Many of us choke on the name Jehovah. JW's ruined it for me. We were singing a hymn a couple of Sundays ago with Jehovah in it. I cringed.
But JW's didn't teach me the name Jehovah, my mother did. Still JW's ruined the name. That and the old testament.
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eddie c
Hi Grace,
I just popped in to say hello. Hope you are well.
As my late father used to say....."its not the dog in the fight......its the fight in the dog.
Keep well.
Eddie
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mouthy
Hi Grace,
I just popped in to say hello. Hope you are well.
As my late father used to say....."its not the dog in the fight......its the fight in the dog.
Keep well.
Eddie
Oh Eddie how lovely to e-you. Long time no eee.... I hope you & the Missus are well. Can you make it over the pond again to the USA PA????Oct 10th... Would be GREAT to see you again. I think of you both often (((((THANKS!!! Your Dad was wise ...
To all the rest that responded thanks for making me feel better about the topic. Rick says it will be on upperroomministries soon so I will give it a listen to see what that Mouthy one really said
But as I just told Jim Penton via the phone. I did everything the WT taught me except ONE thing!!!!
After I would take Elders on my book studies to counsel me... They would say"Grace instead of saying what you think, Think what you say" Funny I never could master that order -
Rapunzel
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08329a.htm
As ancient Hebrew had no vowels, it is generally considered impossible to definitively determine exactly how the so-called "Divine Name" would have been originally pronounced. As I understand it, both ways of pronouncing the name - "Yahweh" and "Jehovah" - are acceptable variants, with "Jehovah" being the "Germanized" form. I believe that the usage of "Jehovah" came into English via German. This fact is due to the very significant influence of German biblical scholarship. For several hundred years, German scholars were at the vanguard of biblical exegesis. Just think of Kittel's work in the field. For example, the "Yahwist" edition of the Pentateuch is labelled the "J" version, not the "Y" version. As I know, the Hebrew "Yahweh" is spelled "Jahwe" in German.
To my knowledge, there are many Jews [mainly, but not exclusively, Orthodox] who take great offense - to the point of outrage - whenever they hear either "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" pronounced. For me, it's just superstition. And, it's all one whether someone uses "Jehovah" or "Yahweh." I really cannot see how it should make any difference to Christians how the "Name" is pronounced. It's ridiculous that people should get "hung up" over such a detail. It's like asking: "Which is the 'correct' way, Pierre, Pedro, or Peter? All three are variants of the same name; just as Michael, Michel, and Miguel are all variants of the same name.
The only thing that people should be concerned about is whether the pronunciation of either "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" will offend listeners of arious cultural/ethnic groups. It seems to me that there are other, more "neutral" terms at which people would not take offense.
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MidwichCuckoo
I mentioned the name Jehovah ....That many who leave the WT hold it in contempt. Rick & Bob felt it is Gods name ....I am sorry I dont .....I would rather use Yaweh if we use anything But I refer to God as FATHER!!!!!
Hello Grace...you have a good Christian Conscience, anyone can see that! I agree absolutely with your above statement, for as much as JWs criticise 'Christendom' and blame them for removing God's 'name' from the Scriptures, wasn't it a Catholic monk (Raymundo Martini?) who INVENTED the name 'Jehovah' (in the 13th Century?) which was then inserted in one or two places in the CATHOLIC Bible...?
Happy Belated Birthday Too!
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eddie c
Hi Grace,
Yes we are keeping well. My wife Anne and i celebrated our 38th wedding anniversary a few days ago. To celebrate the day we hired a Canal Boat and along with some friends sailed along the canal at Skipton, Yorkshire. We had a great day.
We wont be with you at PA....but know that you will have a wonderful time.
Eddie
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mouthy
celebrated our 38th wedding anniversary a few days ago. To celebrate the day we hired a Canal Boat and along with some friends sailed along the canal at Skipton, Yorkshire. We had a great day.
Well I am glad you did. Happy belated 38 Imagine to the same Woman!!!!Wonders never cease LOL
Midwich cuckoo Thanks for your understanding .
... Repunzel I knew that but to an exJW it is like waving a red flag in front of a bull .