What is the problem with new age stuff? (page 2)

S3RAPH1M

In India, Africa, and all the ancient world, as far as I've read and seen through research, it was always the WOMEN who were the water bearers. Jesus met a Samaritan WOMAN at the well getting water. Abraham's servant also came across women getting water, not men. A man carrying water in Israel during "Jesus" day? A man as a water bearer?? Something doesn't sound right there.

diamondblue1974

Anything that is not strictly Christian or represents an alternative to Christian dogma will result in it being demonised to some extent.

That being as it is, I do agree that theres is a collective unconscious move towards nature based spiritualities or new age beliefs. After all the age of Aquarius was said to have been announced by Jesus in Luke 22:10 - I cant understand therefore why Christians have such a jaundiced view of it.

Gary

FlyingHighNow

My church is cool with the new age stuff, but then Episcopalians are very progressive and sensible.

Hope4Others

The problem with new age and Jw's is....

Anything outside that spiritual little paradise (the kingdom hall) is demonic.....they will never get past that.

h4o

CandleLight

Jw's are indoctrinated with alot of fears, including "new age". I don't think they really even know what it is more less how to recognize it in it's true form.

I have seen a tendency in some christian circles to meld in New Age ideas. Kinda a combining of doctrines, trying to make some pieces fit together. I think what appeals to those who love God, about some of the new age teachings is that they find at some level, a bit of truth mixed into the teachings. Finding in that belief system, something they can agree with, they start accepting other things that they may never had agreed with before, and before long, the orginal teachings of Jesus, have been altered by another form of belief system.

New age teachings, and Jesus do not mix. Jesus through the holy spirit teaches us things about him, God, the world around us, and the power that exists there, but the foundation for the two are different. One is earth, creation, self power(new age) the other is Jesus, helping, healing and empowering others through him, not ourselves(rock). One draw energy into oneself(NA).. With Jesus power it flows as his does, outward like a fountain.

I choose rock.

CL

ninja

maybe this is why....read what a leading new ager says....just a thought

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

---David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

Terry

Everybody gets to play the game of life.

What are the rules?

You hear alot of contradictory stuff.

How do you know what works and what doesn't?

You have to have a plan, a method, a map---some way to figure out what the game is and how you play it---and--what winning means!

Most people on this planet are told from infancy that the game is to get to live in the NEXT LEVEL and that the next level is the REAL GAME.

That may be true or it might be a lie.

What is at risk?

IF you play this game of life as though it is only the FIRST LEVEL---you just may be throwing away the ONLY opportunity to play you ever get.

It all comes down to this in the final analysis:

!.Either this world is real and the knowledge that works has to match the reality

or

2.Deuces wild---anything is anything, hit or miss

Most people rely on a strategy called RELIGION. It has lots of rules.

Other people rely on a stragey called SCIENCE. It discovers laws.

So, what do we have?

We have a choice to make.

WHOSE RULES AND LAWS really apply to the game of life?

That is the basic choice, the fundamental, the premise, the methodology by which you go through life.

Does YOURS work?

What I currently use is Philosophy and its Epistemology.

NEW AGE and RELIGION are alternate choices.

Each makes claims about reality.

Each asks you to accept that there is also a SUPERIOR reality you can't see, hear, touch, sniff, etc.

In this Superior Reality, existence has a super nature (supernatural). Invisible beings, higher knowledge, etc. exist.

The PROBLEM is that you cannot test, measure, predict or integrate information from religion or New Age sources with the REALITY YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN!

The choice is real enough.

Live a testable life in a measurable and predictable state of being or accept another existence which is, perhaps, imaginary, illusory and time-wasting.

Now, that really is a problem! Why?

They all claim to be "True".

Narkissos

Shortly put, concurrence.

A new line of "products" targeting the same "needs," i.e. the same potential buyers.

From a European standpoint, I see a remarkable similarity between those two "movements": as the "born again" identification transcends classical borders (denominational membership, adherence to a specific creed), so the "new age" nebula includes a lot of different organisations and teachings (Eastern, Western neo-paganism, alchemy, occultism etc.); both work as a cross-institutional system of mutual recognition through an informal pattern of talk, attitudes etc. "New Agers" will "know" each other, no matter what their specific "ways" and memberships are, just like "born again" will "know" each other whether they're Anglican or Baptist. And, ironically, both will occasionally resent the lumping label.

GentlyFeral

S3RAPH1M:

A man carrying water in Israel during "Jesus" day? A man as a water bearer?? Something doesn't sound right there.

According to Bruce Chilton's Rabbi Jesus: an Intimate Biography, that was the whole point: Jesus, who was then "wanted by the police," so to speak, told his disciples to look for precisely this unusual sight, a man carrying water like a woman, who would lead them to the secret loction for what turned out to be the Last Supper.

Now, as to the Jordan Maxwell site: It's the same illiterate snatch-n-grab, faux-anthropology fakelore "method" that Alexander Hislop used to foist his prejudices on generations of naive churchfolk. And it's partly dependent on Hislop, too, I think.

I was only able to scroll through a couple of pages before my bullsh!t detector flared up. I'm sure he's wrong about the Iron Cross . The Nazis never had a lock on it; it was widely used by more innocent organizations before Hitler and after him. It's a variant of the Maltese cross.

gently feral

Satanus

Narkissos

Now that you mention it, i have to agree. The charismatic christians have a few of the same practices as those in the new age. I actually took a couple of techniques w me, when i left christianity. The difference, imo, is that the charismatics have a more or less closed system. Anything outside of theirs is branded as demonic, evil, sinful, etc. New agers can be religiousy, too, i suppose. However, when they get more experience, i think that they are more tolerant and lose more dogma.

S

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