Oh hell, this thread about my mom's experience is so close to 21 posts sitting at 20 - I can't resist the temptation to bump it up one last time ! LOL! Your thoughts are appreciated ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
My Older Witness Mom Admits to me - "It's a Man's Organization "
by flipper 25 Replies latest jw friends
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OnTheWayOut
Bumping this thread up- because it's so close to 21 posts now, it would be redundant not to make it burn.
so close to 21 posts sitting at 20 - I can't resist the temptation to bump it up one last time
Okay, Jeez Louise. You get the last three comments just so you can claim it's a burning topic.
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flipper
OTWO- Hey thanks for the bump guy ! LOL! You are a real pal ! By the way- both our mom's are old and witnesses, how's your mom ? Just so I put a little substance to this post ! LOL! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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CoonDawg
Well, it had nothing to do with abuse, but my mother, still a witness in good standing, has admitted that she sees much imperfection in the organization. Of course, she justifies it to herself as being run by "imperfect men"...but she still sees it enough to not hassle me about my fade. In fact, she understands and even sees my reasoning of why I don't attend. She doesn't condone it, but she understands and can make an exception in her mind because she knows how shabbily I have been treated by elders and many other witnesses.
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ESTEE
" I just want you to know if you go to the elders about this abuse by your husband , they will downplay it, and they won't believe you. It is a man's organization ; and they don't take kindly to sisters ratting their abusive husbands out. "
Sheesh, this conversation really sounds like your mom is opening her eyes! It's great she is talking about these events. Just keep on being a good listener, Mr. Flipper! You're doin' great. She is really confiding in you now!
My mom continued saying she sat in on the meeting my sister had with the elders, and was there when the elders questioned her grandchildren ( my sisters kids) about events that happened in their home regarding their father. And my mom said, " I was sickened by the questions the elders asked my grandchildren ! They were totally inappropriate questions to be asking a 14 year old or 12 year old ! "
Indeed it is not appropriate for the elders to be interrogating the grandchildren. Just shows how untrained and unprofessional and presumptuous the elders are --- to think they have authority to be counselling families/couples.
ESTEE
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flipper
COON DAWG- It seems like your mom is a lot like mine too ! She respects my fade as well, and has a big lack of trust in the elders as she saw the elders treat me unjustly also. I hope that some day she will see the whole deception of the organization ; however she is 81, and changes come difficult to those who are older.
ESTEE- Thanks sis. Yes, I do feel like my mom questions things, and that's why I've been able to openly discuss my doubts with her before. But I think she stays in the witnesses because my dad 83, is an elder, and she supports his position. But at least she has a critically thinking mind and questions things. Which is good