I have a simple solution. Just write his body of elders and explain your situation. Charlie needs to be right with God and make a choice. This will certainly motivate the situation in the right direction. He may then figure out what he really wants.
I FEEL SO USED
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closer2fine
Um, messenger, what's that coming out of your ass???LOL
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25ashitaka25
Love, Closer2fine?
oy, holy shit! I don't need acrid ass-smell....aarrgghhh!!!!
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butalbee
Poor girl. I tell ya, I feel for you more than you know. You are in love with someone who has been brainwashed(think lobotomy) by a CULT. Oh and I am not sorry for SAYING the TRUTH of this strange religion, for I have had the unpleasantry of studying this warped and misleading teachings, your Charlie is just lost in the blarney of it all--really being cemented in his head like the PLAGUE, PROBABLY ALL OF HIS LIFE. You need to distant yourself from him. I know it's hard, trust me, I'm walking that road right now(I have been involved with a witness for quite awhile, his family are really urging me to convert, lately it seems even he wants me to convert, BUT I see only lies in this supposingly truth, only mental disorders and overwelming GUILT, if one does something IMMORAL to their made up version of god.
Does he know how much he is hurting you? I mean have you told him your true feelings? You two really need to talk about your relationship. And he needs to come to grips with the guilt that I know he is feeling because of your fornications, guilt is all about this religion--IT'S HOW IT KEEPS THE FOLLOWERS FAITHFUL SERVANTS[SLAVES].
Oh, and yo-yo-mama, it's very obvious that you are a true witness, by how cold and callous, and bitterly unfeeling you are for a worldly person. You know this guy this lost girl is seeing is one of your sheep, HE is the one making the mistakes, being immoral, Serena is just a girl being ruled by her heart and hopes for a future with him. The followers in this cult are far from perfect, actually I think a few of them are even demonic in spirit! I've seen your sisters at work flirt with any tom, dick, and harry--hoping to get a little dick, oh in the back seat of a car, or the back room of where I work. As a matter of fact, a manager was transfered to a different location, because he got caught having sex with a sister in the deli cooler. I heard one sister tell the gorcery manager that she does not believe in premartial sex, then later that night, when I was walking to my car, they were necking in her car. I could go on and on and on--I know of an elder cheating on his wife, a married sister pregnant with a black man's baby...Actually the sexual escapades of these sisters and brothers are the comedic farce of the store. So--PLEASE DON'T REFER TO THIS GIRL AS IMMORAL because sweetheart how perfect are you?
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butalbee
I stumbled on to this site, on my own personal search for the truth: 101 weird and wacky practices of jw's.
1. Jehovah God is not a Trinity
2. The doctrine of the Trinity is inspired by Satan
3. Jesus Christ is a created being, who at one time did not exist (a.k.a.Michael the archangel)
4. The Holy Spirit is not a person but is "God's active force" i.e. gravity, electricity etc.
5. Heaven is only for select Jehovah's Witnesses
6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
7. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true Christians
8. There is no eternal torment (Hell is just the grave)
9. There is no life after (except for the 144,000)
10. Salvation is by good works not by Grace
11. You cannot be sure of salvation
12. Jesus is not to be worshiped or prayed to
13. Jesus did not rise from the bodily but as a spirit being
14. The second coming occurred in 1914 (only known to Jehovah's Witnesses)
15. The "first resurrection" occurred in 1918
16. All pastors are the "Antichrist"
17. All churches are of Satan
18. All governments are controlled by Satan
19. You cannot take a transfusion
20. You cannot support your country
21. You cannot salute the flag, stand for the national anthem, or own a flag
22. You cannot serve in the military
23. You cannot buy Scout cookies
24. You must attend five meetings per week
25. You must go from door to door weekly to gain converts
25. You are discouraged from attending college
26. You cannot marry a non-Jehovah's Witness
27. If one does not follow the rules of the Watchtower they will be shunned
28. You cannot join any clubs or sports teams
29. You cannot be a
30. You cannot celebrate any holidays (Christmas, Easter, etc.)
31. You cannot celebrate your birthday
32. You cannot vote in any political campaign
33. You cannot hold public office
34. You cannot serve on a jury
35. You are discouraged from giving to charity (except Watchtower causes)
36. You cannot speak to former members who are shunned (disfellowshipped)
37. You cannot accept Christmas gifts
38. You must read and study Watchtower literature regularly
39. Only Jehovah's Witnesses can understand the Bible
40. Angels direct the Watchtower organization
41. Jesus did not die on a cross but an upright pole
42. You cannot own or wear a cross
43. You must report your witnessing activity to the elders
45. You cannot have friends who are not Jehovah's Witnesses
46. You must refer to all Jehovah's Witnesses as "brother" or "sister"
47. Only approved practices are allowed in marriage
48. You cannot understand the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it
49. A child molester is reported to Watchtower elders and not the police
50. You must forgo vacations to attend annual conventions
51. You are discouraged from buying a two door car
52. Men must wear short hair
53. Men cannot wear beards
54. Women cannot pray in the presence of men without a hat
55. You cannot have a tattoo
56. You cannot use tobacco products
57. If you see another Jehovah's Witness breaking the rules you must turn them in to the elders
58. You must appear before a Judicial committee if you are caught breaking Watchtower rules (Secret files are kept on all members which record these meetings (they are never destroyed)
59. You must not own wind-chimes (they are for chasing away spirits)*
60. You cannot read any anti-Jehovah's Witness material
61. You cannot use pet foods made with
62. You cannot read Christian literature from a Christian book store
63. You cannot wear jade jewelry*
64. You cannot purchase Christian products (plaques, pictures etc.)
65. You cannot wear any Christian jewelry
66. Jehovah's Witness meeting places have no windows
67. You cannot play chess*
68. Jesus could have sinned and failed in his mission
69. Jesus was not born the savior but became the savior at his baptism
70. The Watchtower organization is God's prophet on earth today
71. Women must submit to Watchtower elders LOL
79. God is not omniscient "all knowing"
80. God is not omnipresent
81. God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York
82. The Holy Spirit is only for select Jehovah's Witnesses
83. The Lord's supper is only to be eaten by select Jehovah's Witnesses (144,000 group)
84. The Lord's supper can only be offered once per year
85. 99.99% of Jehovah's Witnesses are from taking the Lord's supper
86. Only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon
87. If you have a non-Witness spouse your first loyality is to the elders over your spouse
88. Jesus was equal to Adam (just a man)
89. Judgement day is 1000 years long
90. If you leave Jehovah's Witnesses or are expelled from the organization you will not be resurrected
91. Only Jehovah's Witness prayers are heard by God
92. Man's salvation is secondary in God's plan; Jesus was sent to "vindicate Jehovah's name"
93. God will destory all non-Jehovah's Witnesses at Armageddon
94. Your hope is to live on a paradise earth forever
95. You must never enter a church building
96. You must never attend a church service
97. You cannot be involved in martial arts, boxing or wrestling
98. You cannot participate in a school play
99. You cannot donate or your organs when you die
100. You can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature
10l. You are to attend a funeral of an ex-Jehovah's WitnessThere's more...
-One must study Watchtower books at least six months before he can be baptized
-Before baptism, one must answer over 80 questions in front of a panel of elders
-Most of The Book of Revelation applies to the Jehovah's Witnesses
-You cannot celebrate Mothers or Fathers day (it may produce pride)
-Kingdom Halls cannot have pews for seating
-JWs are to say "good luck"
-JWs in times of crisis, are strongly discouraged from consulting with family counsellors, including mental health professionals who are not Jehovah's WitnessesWhat they're called...
-JW services are called "meetings"
-JW hymnals are called "song books" (all songs have to be composed by JWs)
-The JW religion is refered to by the Witnesses as "The Truth"
-The JWs call themselves "The only true Christians"
-The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Inc. of Brooklyn, New York is called "God's Organization"
-In conversation JWs call Watchtower headquarters "The Society"
-All other religions (pagan, Christian, or any world religion) are called "Babylon the Great"
-All Christian pastors and ministers are called the "Antichrist"
-Changes in doctrine is called "New Light"
-The five meetings JWs must attend are called:1. Public Talk
2. Watchtower Study
3. Area Book Study
4. Theocratic School
5. Service Meeting-A non-Witness is called "a worldly person"
-A person who rejects the JW message is called a "goat"
-A person who is studying to become a JW is called "a study"
-God's judgment on all non JWs is called "Armageddon"
-The JW Bible is called "New World Translation
-The door to door work is called "the Service"
-Those who bring "new light" or new revelations to the JWs are called "The faithful and discreet slave"
-JWs who have an earthly hope are called "Other Sheep"
-Old term for earthly hope "Jonadab"
-JWs who have a heavenly hope are called "Anointed Remnant"
-A JW who is enthusiastic is called "theocratic"
-Every JW is called a "Publisher"
-Part time door to door workers are called "Auxiliary Pioneers"
-Full time door to door workers are called "Regular Pioneers"
-Full time door to door workers who have stricter quotas than Regular Pioneers, are called "Special Pioneers"
-Appointed Local leaders are called "Elders"
-Appointed Local helpers/workers are called "Ministerial Servants"
-The group responsible for discipline are called "The Judicial Committee"
-A traveling Watchtower representative is called a "Circuit Overseer"
-The Circuit Overseer's boss is called "District Overseer"
-The District Overseer's boss is called "Zone Overseer"
-The Zone Overseer's boss is called "Branch Overseer"
-Brooklyn New York Headquarters is called "Bethel"
-Headquarters workers are called "Bethelites"
-A person who is a weak Witness is called "unspiritual" or "Un-theocratic"
-A JW who is publicly disciplined by the elders is called "publicly reproved""
-A JW who is privately disciplined by the elders is called "privately reproved"
-A JW who rejects Watchtower teachings and leaves or is expelled is called "an apostate"
-A JW who breaks any of the Watchtower rules and does not repent to the elders is "disfellowshipped" (Shunned)
-A disfellowshipped person who wants to return to the organization, repents to the elders and is called "reinstated"
-Jehovah's Witness meeting places are called "Kingdom Halls"BRAINWASHING.
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Serena
We spent last night together, and did not have sex, we just watched tv, read, and talked all night long. He told me that I am his best friend and soul mate. He said something that shocked me, "you know, if we got married, nobody could stop us from being together." He then went on that he needs a change in his life, and that I'm the only person that he feels he can be himself with. He is really confusing me, one day he tells me it is wrong for us to be together, the next day he talks about marriage.
We are both in our mid/late 20's. We've gone out on dates to the movies, or dinner, at night. And we've gone on day trips out of town to visit museums and zoo's. I knew his parents before I knew who he was, and they like me, but they don't know the vivid details of our relationship,they think we've just friends. Today he asked me to go to a reptile exhibit later on next month, which would be a weekend trip.
And we don't just get together and get naked, we talk and talk, watch video's, he cooks for me, we go on long car rides, we talk on the phone for hours. I like who he is on the inside more than what he looks like on the outside.
Although, I have to admit, and maybe I'm just a nympho, who should just close my legs and stop being immoral, I like having sex with him, he is excellent. He touches me in places I never knew existed. And their are nights, he calls me and I go over and all we do is make love. I can't say no, I don't want to say no...but their is more here than just great sex. I feel it when I look into his eyes.
But I still feel used, it matters so much to him what the sisters and brothers in his congregation think of him, and his actions, and he doesn't want them to find out that he is involved with me. To be a good role model for them to follow????that hurt me that I come second. Yes, I do feel hysterical, I am hurt, but at the same time trying to hold on to him anyway I can. Tomorrow, I'm gonna tell him that we need to have a long talk about if we have any kind of future. As much as I love him, I can't live on pins and needles anymore. The truth is I have made huge sacrifices for him, what has he done for me?
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Serena
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY IT IS SO BAD FOR A WITNESS TO DATE SOMEONE WHO IS NOT??????????????????????????????PLEASE EXPLAIN.
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Naeblis
HOly crap what happened in those 7 minutes between posts???
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slipnslidemaster
I am so sorry that I clicked to be notified on this thread. Who the F cares? She's not listening. Move on people.
Slipnslidemaster:"The average person thinks he isn't."
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Serena
I can't just turn my heart off like a light bulb.