Ice on Mars!!!

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  • ohiocowboy
    ohiocowboy

    They found ice on Mars!

    http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/06/mars-phoenix-tw.html

    And from the NASA site

    http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/06_19_pr.php

    Bright Chunks At Phoenix Lander's Mars Site Must Have Been Ice

    June 19, 2008 -- Dice-size crumbs of bright material have vanished from inside a trench where they were photographed by NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander four days ago, convincing scientists that the material was frozen water that vaporized after digging exposed it.

    "It must be ice," said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson. "These little clumps completely disappearing over the course of a few days, that is perfect evidence that it's ice. There had been some question whether the bright material was salt. Salt can't do that."

    The chunks were left at the bottom of a trench informally called "Dodo-Goldilocks" when Phoenix's Robotic Arm enlarged that trench on June 15, during the 20th Martian day, or sol, since landing. Several were gone when Phoenix looked at the trench early today, on Sol 24.

    Also early today, digging in a different trench, the Robotic Arm connected with a hard surface that has scientists excited about the prospect of next uncovering an icy layer.

    The Phoenix science team spent Thursday analyzing new images and data successfully returned from the lander earlier in the day.

    Studying the initial findings from the new "Snow White 2" trench, located to the right of "Snow White 1," Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis, co-investigator for the robotic arm, said, "We have dug a trench and uncovered a hard layer at the same depth as the ice layer in our other trench."

    On Sol 24, Phoenix extended the first trench in the middle of a polygon at the "Wonderland" site. While digging, the Robotic Arm came upon a firm layer, and after three attempts to dig further, the arm went into a holding position. Such an action is expected when the Robotic Arm comes upon a hard surface.

    Meanwhile, the spacecraft team at Lockheed Martin Space Systems in Denver is preparing a software patch to send to Phoenix in a few days so scientific data can again be saved onboard overnight when needed. Because of a large amount a duplicative file-maintenance data generated by the spacecraft Tuesday, the team is taking the precaution of not storing science data in Phoenix's flash memory, and instead downlinking it at the end of every day, until the conditions that produced those duplicative data files are corrected.

    "We now understand what happened, and we can fix it with a software patch," said Phoenix Project Manager Barry Goldstein of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena. "Our three-month schedule has 30 days of margin for contingencies like this, and we have used only one contingency day out of 24 sols. The mission is well ahead of schedule. We are making excellent progress toward full mission success."

    Click Here for images associated with this press release

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    I saw this. As I understand this is the first discovery of water other than the Earth. Or am I wrong?

    Pretty cool though.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Comets also have ice.

    S

  • ohiocowboy
    ohiocowboy

    I believe this is the first time they have actually found ice on another planet. There is water elsewhere in the Solar System, ie; comets, etc. I think they are so excited with Mars because some theories suggest that Mars was once very similar to Earth, and very well could have supported life. Now they will search for organic compounds to see if life was feasible there.

  • parakeet
    parakeet

    I've been following the Martian news as well. It's amazing!

    BTW, if anyone wants email updates on anything related to astronomy, you can subscribe to SpaceWeather.com. It will inform you of meteor showers, unusual planetary/lunar/star conjunctions, eclipses, satellite flybys, NASA projects, etc. It's an outstanding site, IMO, and very easy to unsubscribe if you don't like the service.

  • oompa
    oompa

    sorry.....but a big so whut?.........this does not excite me....more than h20 in any form is required...oompa

  • ohiocowboy
    ohiocowboy

    The spaceweather link looks awesome-Thanks for the heads up! I sometimes use http://www.heavens-above.com/ but some parts can be hard to figure out.

  • SacrificialLoon
    SacrificialLoon

    Could it be dry ice? Dry ice would sublimate too.

    There's ice and probably water underneath it on Jupiter's moon Europa, and maybe water in Saturn's moon Enceladus, but they're not sure if the tidal forces are enough to keep it warm enough for water.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Ooompa

    What would you like to see on mars, palm trees, a latrine, and a mexican waiter?

    S

  • ohiocowboy
    ohiocowboy
    sorry.....but a big so whut?.........this does not excite me....more than h20 in any form is required...oompa

    Finding water is a big stepping stone to discovering compounds that make life possible, and then the possibility of finding remains of life on a planet so close to ours.

    If anything, we will have something to mix in our drinks when we get there...-LOL

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