3 in 10 Americans Admit to Race Bias- But at least we're talking about it

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  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Will the election of a black man as President of the US help to diminish racism or will it sharpen the divide? Is race an issue where you live?

    3 in 10 Americans Admit to Race Bias

    Survey Shows Age, Too, May Affect Election Views

    By Jon Cohen and Jennifer Agiesta Washington Post Staff Writers
    Sunday, June 22, 2008; Page A01

    As Sen. Barack Obama opens his campaign as the first African American on a major party presidential ticket, nearly half of all Americans say race relations in the country are in bad shape and three in 10 acknowledge feelings of racial prejudice, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    Lingering racial bias affects the public's assessments of the Democrat from Illinois, but offsetting advantages and Sen. John McCain's age could be bigger factors in determining the next occupant of the White House.

    Overall, 51 percent call the current state of race relations "excellent" or "good," about the same as said so five years ago. That is a relative thaw from more negative ratings in the 1990s, but the gap between whites and blacks on the issue is now the widest it has been in polls dating to early 1992.

    More than six in 10 African Americans now rate race relations as "not so good" or "poor," while 53 percent of whites hold more positive views. Opinions are also divided along racial lines, though less so, on whether blacks face discrimination. There is more similarity on feelings of personal racial prejudice: Thirty percent of whites and 34 percent of blacks admit such sentiments.

    At the same time, there is an overwhelming public openness to the idea of electing an African American to the presidency. In a Post-ABC News poll last month, nearly nine in 10 whites said they would be comfortable with a black president. While fewer whites, about two-thirds, said they would be "entirely comfortable" with it, that was more than double the percentage of all adults who said they would be so at ease with someone entering office for the first time at age 72, which McCain (R-Ariz.) would do should he prevail in November.

    Even so, just over half of whites in the new poll called Obama a "risky" choice for the White House, while two-thirds said McCain is a "safe" pick. Forty-three percent of whites said Obama has sufficient experience to serve effectively as president, and about two in 10 worry he would overrepresent the interests of African Americans.

    Obama will be forced to confront these views as he seeks to broaden his appeal. He leads in the Post-ABC poll by six percentage points among all adults, but among those who are most likely to vote, the contest is a tossup, with McCain at 48 percent and Obama at 47 percent.

    His campaign advisers hope race may prove a benefit, that heightened enthusiasm among African Americans will make Obama competitive in GOP-leaning states with large black populations. But to win in November, Obama most likely will have to close what is now a 12-point deficit among whites. (Whites made up 77 percent of all voters in 2004; blacks were 11 percent, according to network exit polls.)

    This is hardly the first time a Democratic candidate has faced such a challenge -- Al Gore lost white voters by 12 points in 2000, and John F. Kerry lost them by 17 points in 2004 -- but it is a significantly larger shortfall than Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton encountered in their winning campaigns.

    Many think Obama has the potential to transform current racial politics. Nearly six in 10 believe his candidacy will shake up the racial status quo, for better or worse. And by nearly 3 to 1, those who think Obama's candidacy will affect race relations said it will have a positive impact. (Four in 10 said it probably will not make much of a difference.)

    African Americans are much more optimistic than whites on this score: Sixty percent said Obama's candidacy will do more to help race relations, compared with 38 percent of whites. Two-thirds of those supporting him for president think it will improve the situation.

    But sorting out the impact of these and other racial attitudes on the presidential election is not straightforward.

    About a fifth of whites said a candidate's race is important in determining their vote, but Obama does no worse among those who said so than among those who called it a small factor or no factor.

    Nor are whites who said they have at least some feelings of racial prejudice more or less apt to support Obama than those who profess no such feelings.

    Putting several measures together into a "racial sensitivity index" reveals that these attitudes have a significant impact on vote preferences, independent of partisan identification. Combining answers to questions about racist feelings, perceptions of discrimination and whether the respondent has a close personal friend of another race into a three-part scale shows the importance of underlying racial attitudes.

    Whites in the top sensitivity group broke for Obama by nearly 20 percentage points, while those in the lowest of the three categories went for McCain by almost 2 to 1.

    A similar pattern holds among Democrats. Obama scores more than 20 points better among nonblack Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents in the "high" group than he does among those in the "low" group.

    Obama has some convincing to do among the 29 percent of whites who fall into the scale's lowest category. (Twenty-one percent were in the top grouping, 50 percent in the middle.) Almost six in 10 whites in the low-sensitivity group see him as a risky choice, and a similar percentage said they know little or nothing about where he stands on specific issues. Nearly half do not think his candidacy will alter race relations in the country; 20 percent think it will probably make race relations worse.

    But McCain's challenges are also an important part of the equation.

    Numerous polls, for example, have indicated that McCain's age may be a bigger detractor than Obama's race. And more are now concerned that McCain will heed too closely the interests of large corporations than said so about Obama and the interests of blacks.

    The poll was conducted by telephone June 12 through June 15 among a national random sample of 1,125 adults. The results from the full poll have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. The error margin is larger for subgroups; it is four points among whites and seven points among African Americans.

    Assistant polling analyst Kyle Dropp contributed to this report.

    Washington Post-ABC News Poll

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/21/AR2008062101825.html?hpid=topnews

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    It's a good sign that "the elephant in the room" is finally being acknowledged.

    It does no one any good to deny that we are all racially biased.

    The question is, do we control our biases or do we allow our biases to control us?

    Sylvia

  • *summer*
    *summer*
    It does no one any good to deny that we are all racially biased.

    Are we

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  • aSphereisnotaCircle
    aSphereisnotaCircle

    I never thought I had any racial bias.

    I'm a massage therapists and have worked on all types of people. I recently discovered that I don't want to touch a man from the middle east with a ten foot pole. Quite a surprise to me, I had never given it any thought before, but when the opertunity almost came up, the realization did too.

    So I guess i have to admit to some bias.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    nvrgnbk,

    I have never met a person who was not in some way or the other racially biased, and I include myself.

    Times are changing with regard to racism and slowly, like some cumbersome juggernaut, they are changing for the better. Regardless of the general lack of popularity of 'political correctness', I am a great believer in its ability, again slowly and often awkwardly, to change societies views in a positive direction.

    A major issue seems to be that some of the strongest racial bias is held by minority groups who have not integrated with much success into the mainstream thinking of their chosen nation. Education and time is the answer to this one.

    HS

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    Yeah I think this means that 7 out of the 10 are either liars or are not self examining very well...

  • wildflowermeadow
    wildflowermeadow

    Three put of ten admitted it? Wow. I'd put the real frequency of bias against blacks far higher--probably eight out of ten, even nine out of ten, from the point of view of an actual black person. Most won't admit it even to themselves even as they act their racism out. Pointing their actions out to them won't make them admit it either--it'll just make them mad. This doesn't mean KKK racism--most people will see you as a person once they get to know you. But most also have that foundation of antipathy or negative expectations about black people as a whole. When they get to know you as a person, you're still the exception, the good black person vs one of those other ones. This is still racism, but we get used to it. Most blacks in the US are experts in dealing with racist whites if they participate in mainstream society.

    Blacks aren't allowed to speak about race in this society unless done extremely carefully. Racist whites don't want to hear it and telling them how you perceive race as a black person will turn them against you faster than anything. If Obama is forced to speak about race as he was over the Wright situation, it will be the end for him. Racist whites will turn against him en masse. He HAS to be an exception in the eyes of the bulk of racist whites to win, the Good Negro.

    I was proud of how carefully he presented the race speech he was forced to make, so as to piss off the racist whites as little as possible. He has to tread on eggshells from now on--any mention of race will turn the bulk of racist whites in this country completely against him--no matter how true or reasonable what he says. It's like speaking against the Watchtower to a JW :-)

  • aSphereisnotaCircle
    aSphereisnotaCircle

    Wildflower, I have to agree with what you said about a "good black" and one of "those". Your post made me think of an incident that happened with an old boyfriend.

    I was crazy in love with him and thought he belonged on a pedistal. We stopped for gas one day and the station attendant was less then friendly toward my beloved. As he got back in the car he said "damn n-----" under his breath. Then he looked up at me, a little embarrassed and then clarified his statement, he said "not all blacks are n-----s, just some of them".

    Since then, I've seen this attitude among other people again and again.

    I think most people here in the US like to believe they are not racist, but when the proof comes out, it makes them angry.

    Obama would do well not to play the race card, if he does, whites will get pissed at him.

  • cognizant dissident
    cognizant dissident

    Hey Nvr, quit spamming the board with your neo-democratic propaganda!

    (Sorry, couldn't resist)

    Seriously, though, is Obama black? I thought his mother was white? Doesn't that make him white?

    If not, why does having a black father make you black but having a white mother does not make you white? I'm confused.

    It's nice that 3 out of 10 people now admit they are racially biased. Now where are the other 97 out of a 100?

    Cog

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