BoniFide,
Like you, I am still tuck inside because of my family and a little bit also, because I want to help as many as I can to see what is really going on. So, I think I understand your pain. You are in our hearts here :)
by BonaFide 48 Replies latest jw friends
BoniFide,
Like you, I am still tuck inside because of my family and a little bit also, because I want to help as many as I can to see what is really going on. So, I think I understand your pain. You are in our hearts here :)
Bonafide and Outofthebox,
I totally relate to what you guys are doing. I had my awakening a couple years ago, and I have chosen to continue to serve as an elder during this time to do whatever I could to influence as many people as possible to open their minds to the "real truth". It has been a very satisfying work, and we have seen some great results. Working from the inside is difficult and has its major challenges, but it is a worthwhile work.
There are many innocent people trapped inside the WT who deserve to be free. Whatever we can do to help is a valuable contribution to human family.
The Oracle
Welcome to the board Bonafide...we are increasing in this board aren't we? It seems "apostates" have more increase than the WT...don't worry NO one in this board will reveal your identity...besides most of us use nicknames, and some even they use a different country of origin, some others they don't mind and they have in their profile many details regarding themselves....
So if you use a nick name, like you do no one will figure out who you are. Just skip the very personal details regarding some discussions you had with the "elders"and the rest is ok. The Brooklyn "007" it will find it difficult to spot you among the 4000 people who attend!!!!
Welcome again to the forum, and you will find this place, a place of healing and true fellowship, and do not hazitate to PM me, I will be glad to help
Bonafide's quote: "I was happy to apologize to him and told him he had good ideas, and I removed him because I was threatened."
Wow... that's coming a long way and an incredibly commendable thing to say, no matter WHO you are. Kudos to you. I can't imagine his reaction.
Strength to you, and welcome.
Love,
Baba.
Bonafide.....serveral people feel that way too...
I personally couldn't take the clampdown anymore. So I overjoyed when some Elders suggested that I stop attending regularly. I upped it by saying I would completely stop but keep receiving litertrash if I got to keep my 'life' (read-family and friends) and the deal was struck! It was to the point were I was in tears ever single meeting because of all the manipulated material.
Since I have the momoneers over Mon-Thurs and often see them on Saturday too I try my best to pass on little JWD tidbits. Most know I post here an welcome the 'insider' info. Blondie's comments are a hit too!
So far my best tip is to get the person talking about what bothers them about the WTS. I don't immediately jump in with supporting facts but just validate their opinion until we are further along in the converstation. Sometime it takes weeks, or months but everyone has some beef with the organization.
Keep us posted.....if you can't post directly many of us will gladly post in your behalf via PMs
If a time comes when the undercover stuff is too much, take a break because living a lie wreck havoc in ways unimaginable.
She told me "I just don't get it. I told the judge I only spank her when she is bad, and the judge said, "Children are not bad."
This just made me smile. Good for that judge!
BonaFide: I sympathise. I felt like my head was about to explode at the convention.
Can you get counselling? That helps.
They got upset WITH ME and said I ask weird questions......
that's funny. I hear the same thing. .....That's much better than the blank stare and strange sudden silence
Welcome, I hope you find some laughs and happiness during your journey.
lisa
Freedom
Truth
Thinking
3 things that are necessary
They must be fought for
Who would have thought that these
basic ideals would have such urgent
applications to Religion when
historically they were tied so
closely to secular governments
Rise up and shrug off the chains
of slavery.
Ask no one to be a slave to you.
nor should you be a slave to someone.
Rational thought is our best weapon.
Use it.
'They gave experiences of people getting money, getting a job, and being blessed by Jehovah. But what about those in the audience with terrible problems?'
It's god's lottery. He uses dice to help him pick who he will help, and lets the rest suffer;)
S
Welcome, btw.